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Bedrock of the Community
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a rare nickel post for you i think the small ticks on the jawline are die related. seen them before. not sure if thats a scuff on obv right field. could be lighting MS64 possible 65 as for steps. TPG's don't even follow their own guidelines. I can post dozens of examples that have hits across the steps that pull the designation. I think they are more concerned with each step is fully defined more so than any hits on them. the bottom step only comes into play for 6FS, i'd call it 5FS |
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Quote:Full Steps (FS) is the designation following the numerical grade of some regular-strike MS60 or higher Jefferson nickels that have at least five separated steps (lines) at the base of Moniticello. Any major disturbance or interruption of these steps or lines, whether caused by contact, planchet problems, or another source, will result in the coin's not being designated FS. Only the slightest weakness on any step (line) is allowed for this designation. Some issues are almost never seen with Full Steps and may command a significant premium. PCGS does not go on to explain the difference between 6FS and 5FS, but essentially it relates to the number of fully separated lines seen on the coin. The 6FS designation will have 5 distinct lines and the 5FS designation will have 4 distinct lines. Any coin without at least 4 fully separated lines will not be awared the FS designation. It should also be noted that originally NGC did not award the FS designation to 5FS Jefferson's until February 16th, 2004. Before that date, NGC only used the FS designation for coins that showed 6FS. After that date they used two different designations, one for 6FS and 5FS. A coin in an older NGC holder with the FS designation equals 6FS. To my knowledge, PCGS always considered 5 or 6 full steps FS. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Looks MS-65 but not one I would buy as FS.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Chase007. I challenge you to look at some 5FS slabbed coins. half of them will showTPG's don't go by their own guidelines and thus the confusion. heres two examples. you tell me. you can find tons like this this one is NGC MS65FS  this one is PCGS MS66FS  |
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As stated, TPG's seem to not follow their own criteria in many cases. I would not purchase either one of the two examples above as FS. Just because it is in a slab that carries that designation doesn't make it so. It is up to us, the scrutinizing collector to determine what is and is not FS based upon the written criteria and reject those examples that violate the written criteria. When enough of us in the marketplace refuse to purchase coins that don't make the mark, perhaps the TPG's will change the way they interpret the FS designation. |
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The FS debacle comes up a lot. Literally the first coin in the PGCS lineup for 1942-D 5c FS is questionable.  It's not so terrible for this year—a 1942-D full steps nickel is about 2x the price of a comparable grade 1942-D nickel—but for some years it's a 50x price difference with the same questionable application of full steps standards. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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The OP coin looks like 4 1/2 steps.
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Bedrock of the Community
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exactly smat45. thats one that should be FS.
the only jeffersons I collected were the ones I pulled from circulation other than 1 50D is purchased to finish the book. if I was buying a FS coin I would not look at the slab grade I would grade the coin which is what you should do for all slabbed coins regardless.
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That is a fine idea in theory, but most auction sites do not photograph the slabbed coins with enough precision to evaluate the details yourself. Do you buy most of your coins in person?
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panzaldi Stated, " if I was buying a FS coin I would not look at the slab grade I would grade the coin which is what you should do for all slabbed coins regardless. "  Always, Buy the Coin, Not the ( label )Slab.. ....  |
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There are some good videos on u tube on how to look at this coin. Has anyone tried and have this coin sent to PCGS? I have an account with them, but the paperwork and online submission is confusing. I couldn't find how to identify the coin.
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Has anyone tried and have this coin sent to PCGS? That was my coin that I sent to NGC because they offer 5FS and 6FS designations. That "should" have easily been 5FS...but they graded it 66+ "only". I have just been sooooo fed up with TPG's and their decisions on FS FBL FB...I just say Full them! I was so embarrassed when I sent a couple of coins in for a friend and they did not designate the Mercury dimes FBL's...I bought them off them for the FB price. I'm just done with the inconsistencies! Done ranting... smat |
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There are some good videos on u tube First, welcome to CCF If I need advise or any kind of numismatic help and or reference I seek advise from reliable sources and experts either on their established website archives or best yet get the advise from Coin Community Family. Youtube is the last source I would even consider. Edited by Chase007
01/08/2026 12:35 pm
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