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Thank you for the quick response. In this particular example the PCGS case has a blue-colored lip around the coin. I have seen other examples with a red-colored lip around the coin. Is there some significance to this?
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Can you post the link to the sale, or a screen shot?
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to the Community! Your post was moved to the appropriate forum for the proper attention.  |
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Forum Dad
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Firefox doesn't always work on the PCGS lookup.
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I'm a newbee so hope this upload. Seller indicated color ring indicates which mint produced the coin, W-blue S-red and P-white  |
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Its a valid number, you are using the wrong code. https://www.pcgs.com/cert/84233259Its a common coin, the color of the slab is just marketing to remove money from uneducated. Based on the grades/selling prices, you are looking from $90 to $150. Although I wouldn't pay that much, I've seen these on sale for around $80, which is what I shoot for. Edited by hfjacinto
03/22/2024 2:05 pm
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84233259, Is the number you should be looking for on PCGS
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84233259 is the certification number.
626034 is the coin number PCGS assigned to a specific coin, a 2008-W American Silver Eagle coin, Struck at West Point, Mint Engraver Series.
A non-Engravers Series 2008-W American Silver Eagle coin, Struck at West Point would have a different coin number.
Edited by nfine
03/22/2024 2:11 pm
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well I guess I am confused even more. I am pretty sure the first number 626033 shown in the previous post is what should be entered in the PCGS price guide search box. The number behind the decimal point, 70 in this case, is the grade. And the number to the right of the slash is the specific coin number PCGS assigned to this particular example during grading. For example for the coin image in this post if you enter 149571 in the PCGS price guide search box it will confirm this as the standard 2007-W proof grading 70 as listed in the slab title. I think if the guy had selected gold when grading then you could use the 45840609 to see the True View image. I'm really not trying to be a wise guy I'm just trying to understand as best as possible.  |
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Here you go, your coin is just a 2007 W with a fancy label. The label is marketing.  Edited by hfjacinto
03/22/2024 2:35 pm
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If you're using the PCGS certification lookup function, 45840609 will return details on that specific coin. Typing the coin #149571 into the search box in the price guide shows pricing for any coin with the same coin #. Here's how to read PCGS labels: https://www.pcgs.com/news/how-to-read-pcgs-labels |
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Okay, almost there. From now on I will start with the the PCGS certification lookup function instead of the price guide. I checked #84233259 (see first image I uploaded) through the cert function and indeed it shows "PCGS #626033 (Variety of: 149571)". And while 149571 does appear in the price guide, if you expand the 149571 category, the 626033 does not appear. The price guide evidently does not list every variation of the basic coin.
Still unanswered is why PCGS sometimes used a red, blue or white ring/gasket around the coin. Perhaps just a "cool" marketing thought on PCGS's part. That's my guess anyway.
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Yes it's a marketing thing. The grading companies have created labels like "First Strike" "Early Releases" and others with different colors or printed images on them. Some collectors like buying coins with specific labels. The grade is more important than the label.
If you are buying slabbed/graded coins stay with the well known respected companies like NGC, PCGS, ANACS, etc. Don't waste your money on the ones slabbed by private sellers trying to increase their profits with their own grading/slabbing.
Edited by livingwater
03/22/2024 3:34 pm
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I agree grade over label is more important. But at least equally important is how I like the coin. For example some types of toning is really attractive but others I find obnoxious even for the same grade. In the case of the America Silver Eagle proof coins I am very picky about making sure there are no (obvious) milk spots. And of course the value of a coin is what a buyer is willing to pay - not what a seller necessarily asks.
Thanks for everyone's input, Phil
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