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Now that I see the reverse I am wondering if detail is missing. The photo is not great. This may be a coin that was put in acid on one side. Acid will remove metal pretty evenly and leave the details legible but irregular.
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Very interesting.  |
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See attached for better pictures, I tried to use my microscope light to show the definition of either side.   |
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LindalCoins, Please no more photos. Also,please properly crop photos before posting them,we only need to see the coin,thanks. John1  |
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I agree with Johnnysprawl on the rolled-thin planchet suggestion, from the information I have on hand, the Canadian Mint did not strike foreign coinage for any countries with that specific weight in 1975.
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Given the "foreign planchet" hypothesis can be discounted, the two most plausible explanations for a much-lighter-weight coin are (a) thin-rolled planchet, and (b) acid attack. Acid would be my usual go-to explanation, simply because it's more probable. However, to lose this much mass, the acid would need to attack all surfaces tot he same degree - so the coin ought to therefore be noticeably smaller in diameter as well as thinner. Further, this much acid attack ought to create a "sharpening" effect and some degree of pitting or un-even-ness , and if anything this coin is too smooth, too flat - which certainly pushes towards a weak strike, and a weak strike would be an expected side-effect of a thinner-than-specification planchet.
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Given the "foreign planchet" hypothesis can be discounted I'm not sure exactly how you determined this hypothesis can be discounted. (Please explain) Reading this post it would indicate to the reader that this is not a foreign planchet because the RCM didn't mint any coins on planchets this size or weight in 1975. However would you not have to look back to all previous years before 1975 also? What if a planchet fell into or under some machinery in 1940 or 1966 (pick any year) but wasn't discovered until they moved the machinery years later. At this time it was tossed back into the hopper now holding the blanks for coins that were being minted in 1975. All we know with certainty is the coin was minted in 1975 but the blank planchet could have been from any year Prior. let's say the blank planchet has no match for anything minted by the RCM past or present, if it was sent into PCGS it could come back as minted on unknown foreign planchet. I have a coin from 1942 on a unknown foreign planchet. With that being said looking at the pictures supplied I'm not convinced it's minted on a foreign planchet either. I would say this is a coin that looks suspect of being subjected to some form of acid. Cheers Bill |
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What is the diameter?
An acid dipped coin will be reduced in diameter as well as thickness.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
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The RCM does strike private tokens like car wash,vending tokens or other similar things for businese usage, but until you can find a match just hard to add value |
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The diameter of the coin is 19mm, I also compared it side-by-side to another 1975 penny and they are identical in diameter.
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would you not have to look back to all previous years before 1975 also? What if a planchet fell into or under some machinery in 1940 or 1966 (pick any year) but wasn't discovered until they moved the machinery years later. Hounddog Bill, The RCM Didn't start producing coins for foreign countries until 1970. They did strike coins for Jamaica post WWI and Newfoundland coins, but those don't fall in the same composition/weight range as small cents struck in 1975. OP's coin being struck on a 2.70g Rolled-Thin planchet seems fitting, it is an error as the normal weight should be 3.24g and it is missing -0.54g well outside of the mint tolerance range, which is +0.15g / -0.15g. Finding and discovering modern Canadian doubled die varieties since 2018. 2023 Recent Publications: Modern Canadian Doubled Die Varieties - First Edition PDF & Paperback https://www.mcddv.ca (website currently down for maintenance as of 08/01/2024) Edited by JohnWayne007
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