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Proof 1909 VDB Wheat Cent. PF ? Or MS ?

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 Posted 09/19/2024  09:59 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Definitely not a proof.
Need way better pictures.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
The rims are the first thing I look at on a proof is found in the wild. These do not look correct.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  10:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Business strike, VF-25 details, looks cleaned.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Looks like a Business Strike. We'll need better photos to grade it.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list
Agree - not proof.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  6:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
Not Proof, AU details, cleaned.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  7:01 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ArrowsAndRays to your friends list
You found that in a roll? Nice.
Not a proof, just a lightly circulated coin.
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 Posted 09/19/2024  11:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mtia3214 to your friends list
Yes found in a roll... ok Thank you for all the input. I also believe it is a business strike, and all your combined knowledge helps me feel better about my decisions...I appreciate it. I would have not wanted to sell it if it turned out to be a proof.
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 Posted 09/20/2024  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Errers and Varietys to your friends list
Great roll find!
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 Posted 09/20/2024  12:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mtia3214 to your friends list
BTW... it doesn't look anything like the way it turned out in the photos. In person, its red, not brown. and has cartwheel luster.... I think Apple starts messing with our phones the closer it is to the next model release. Its an iphone 14 Pro max, just over a year old.. . it used to take good pics... now something is definetly off.

Anyone else having issues with their iphone's camera?
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 Posted 09/20/2024  12:29 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mtia3214 to your friends list
Maybe I can help one of you... I don't buy rolls labeled "unsearched" and only from sellers that have a lot of listings and a lot of sales that wouldn't have time to search their rolls if they wanted to. I have had pretty good luck searching for "wheaties" this way... Thanks again.
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 Posted 09/20/2024  04:04 am  Show Profile   Check spru's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add spru to your friends list

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updated pics... Its still not very clear.. I'm not sure why my phone is acting up...

I think the die lines match the PCGS photo. Does this make it a slightly circulated proof?

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 Posted 09/21/2024  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IndianGoldEagle to your friends list
I still do not think this is a proof.
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 Posted 09/22/2024  12:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
You have a business strike, no doubt.

1909 was the first year for the Lincoln Cent. The hubs & dies were brand new and the mints produced many high quality coins that can exhibit proof-like qualities. The question of "is my 1909 a proof" has come up perhaps a 100 or more times in the forum - even by yours truly. Try using the forum search feature - you'll see what I mean.

Not a proof - even with square rims and matte fields:


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