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1807/6 Draped Bust Large Cent. Split Planchet After Strike.

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 Posted 10/25/2024  08:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
I will be getting this one rehabbed. I have to wonder how it survived this long. Surely it couldn't have been in circulation!
Thanks to all for checking it out.
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 Posted 10/29/2024  11:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
It is on its way to PCGS.
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 Posted 04/25/2026  10:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list
Resurrecting this post of mine from the past. As stated, I sent this to PCGS expecting the grade it received. However,I was not expecting the split after strike to be labeled as "Damaged". Is this incompetence or what. I was so POed I just tossed it in a drawer.
I just ran across it again while getting some coins to send off to ANACS. Perhaps I will add this one in the shipment for reordering to designate the error. PCGS is definitely not the right choice for error coins.
What are your thoughts on this?


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 Posted 04/25/2026  11:15 am  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
I understand the frustration here. But my first thought when I saw the pics was, with the damage all around it, how could it have gotten a problem free grade and how could they be certain it was split after strike. I just don't think they could be sure.
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 Posted 04/25/2026  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adam126402 to your friends list
I agree that it is a split planchet, but the edge looks damaged, not caused by the split.

I do wonder if the split was forced and as a direct result of the edge damage. Hence, it circulated for a while before the split. Just an amateur speculation on my part.

Just curious, if it was straight graded by PCGS, what are we talking value wise?
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I agree that it is a split planchet, but the edge looks damaged, not caused by the split.

I do wonder if the split was forced and as a direct result of the edge damage. Hence, it circulated for a while before the split. Just an amateur speculation on my part.

Just curious, if it was straight graded by PCGS, what are we talking value wise


My thoughts are that it did indeed circulated a good while before the split gave way yet someone held on to it apparently for many years resulting in the edges being slightly damaged. The lack of striations that remained were as well worn smooth over time. It just amazes me that it survived for 220 yrs at all.
As the holder indicates Detail I assume that to be a result of the "Damage". Not straight graded. Indicates Not Gradable on back of holder.
As far as value, my guess would be about the same as a parking lot coin with this lable. Now if the other half was with it, that would be another story.
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 Posted 04/25/2026  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dearborn to your friends list

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I do wonder if the split was forced and as a direct result of the edge damage

That was my initial thought as well.
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 Posted 04/26/2026  03:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list

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I do wonder if the split was forced and as a direct result of the edge damage.

Very plausible - hence the flats on the rim from a hammer trying to split it?
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 Posted 04/26/2026  03:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Marv65 to your friends list
Just a quick thought - at 5.04g it's only less than 1/2 g shy of tolerance (5.44).... That would be a mighty thin split - could it just have been ground down and damaged somehow to make it look the way it does and PCI got it wrong from the beginning?
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Just a quick thought - at 5.04g it's only less than 1/2 g shy of tolerance (5.44).... That would be a mighty thin split - could it just have been ground down and damaged somehow to make it look the way it does and PCI got it wrong from the beginning?


I a bit confused with your reply. The weight for a Draped Bust large cent is 10.89g. A weight of 5.06g is a bit lighter than half the weight of the coin. Are you suggesting that a split Blanchett should be precisely half the weight of the full coin. I would think the split is not always dead center of the Blanchett. Circulation wear accounts for a portion of the weight loss as well.
I'm just wondering if I am misunderstanding your explanation. Thanks for your input.
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I a bit confused with your reply.

Just another senile moment - for some stupid reason I was thinking the weight for the large cent was 5.44g.
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 Posted 04/27/2026  3:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Petespockets55 to your friends list
I'm just seeing this thread and even though I love a nice variety (and error coin to boot), the original grade by PCI was GD04 (Good Details 04).

If you are upset/disappointed that PCGS didnt label it with the split planchet as well, you can request them to correct their mistake (assuming you requested and paid for that error designation as well). If they reslab it, have them add the weight to the label as well.
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 Posted 04/28/2026  10:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Dowhat to your friends list

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If you are upset/disappointed that PCGS didnt label it with the split planchet as well, you can request them to correct their mistake (assuming you requested and paid for that error designation as well). If they reslab it, have them add the weight to the label as well.


Thanks, I will check out that option.
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