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Need Guidance As To The Approximate Grade Of My 1909-S VDB

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 Posted 07/02/2025  3:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xvw to your friends list
I can't seem to add additional images but if the previous pics posted help to assess a grade estimate I would be grateful.
The PCGS # is 2426.91/52696100
PCGS Genuine
Questionable Color-UNC Detail
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 Posted 07/02/2025  3:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinForMe to your friends list

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The PCGS # is 2426.91/52696100
PCGS Genuine

Side note: PCGS is also known to hand out "Genuine" on Fake coins...
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 Posted 07/02/2025  3:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
For posterity


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 Posted 07/02/2025  3:34 pm  Show Profile   Check Zurie's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Zurie to your friends list
The TrueView photos look a lot nicer than the original photos. It did receive a grade: Unc details. A numerical mint state grade isn't relevant, since the value would generally be less than the lowest straight-graded mint state grade. That being said, it looks like a pretty attractive coin.
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 Posted 07/02/2025  5:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joeturbo26 to your friends list
It really is a pretty coin with what would be killer toning if it were original .. ughhh!
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 Posted 07/02/2025  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DOCC to your friends list
I'm not going to resurrect the the whole conversation on toning. But that, IMHO, is market acceptable and should sell at a premium compared to other questionable color versions. It does make me question why someone felt the need to lay on colors - how bad did it look before?
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 Posted 07/03/2025  07:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xvw to your friends list
FOUND!
My coin dealer came through.

Link https://www.pcgs.com/cert/52696100
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 Posted 07/03/2025  07:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xvw to your friends list
Remember people the color is "Questionable" not natural or artificial!
I liked it enough to invest in it.

I would still like a grade estimate if anyone dares to commit.
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 Posted 07/03/2025  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
It seems like them calling it questionable shows ignorance, fear of commitment, or both.

The market will set the price appropriately regardless of the label.
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 Posted 07/03/2025  11:29 am  Show Profile   Check Pacificoin's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add Pacificoin to your friends list
Glad you got it authenticated.
What's questionable colour ?
I will help here , if you are just a minor
submitter collector or dealer .bang questionable !
One of the power house dealer / auction houses ..
a no questions asked MS65 + Gem worthy of the finest collection. Unreal original toning !
The whole grading , authenticity game is filled with
frozen cow pucks !
Stated just to stir the pot!
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It seems like them calling it questionable shows ignorance, fear of commitment, or both.

I agree! If they can't decide, why compromise a coin rating with a non-conclusive decision, such as "UNC Details because of Questionable Color"?
Edit to add this: Pacificoin, you are spot on!
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 Posted 07/03/2025  12:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MisterT to your friends list
Well on the plus side you have a coin deemed "Genuine". On the minus side you have a coin considered "UNC- Details" which basically takes the value of an MS-60 coin and cuts it in half for many collectors. In reality this coin will be worth whatever someone is willing to pay for it. Some may consider the details grade as a negative and offer half of the MS-60 value. Others may Like the eye appeal of the colorful toning and offer a premium which could range from $2300 in MS-60 to $5200 in MS-65. Myself, I would place it in the mid range UNC (MS-63) With a value of $2800 and with the details designation I would be a buyer in the $1500 range. Others may feel differently.
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PacificCoin for the win.

Just look at all the obvious work done by Mountain Mike that straights https://www.ebay.com/str/mikesmountainvalues Not claiming they look bad but NOBODY happens upon so many toners - unless of course, they are a color artist.

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