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I am not sure why 1600 was chosen for the cutoff. It probably involved input from some members who are long gone, but it is what it is.
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I just got 2 more in the mail and waiting on 3 more - when they arrive I'll post all 5..  |
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For example, we could define the start as Charlemagne's reform of 794 defining the standard denier and the end as the introduction of milled coinage (which will be at different dates in different countries. So, your definition of the Medieval period only works with coins; which completely ignores what actually defines the Medieval period-- "those who work, those who fight and those who pray." --peasants, soldiers and priests. As far as different dates in different countries the Medieval period is a history of a specific area and is not based on what type of coinage was used. i also studied Medieval history in school with my masters focus on the Medieval period and wrote my thesis on Constantinian coinage. |
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your definition of the Medieval period only works with coins Yes, it does, since we were only talking about the coins in this coin forum. You or I could probably define different medieval periods for jettons, medallions, currency notes, money supply, weapons, rents, earnings, diplomacy, etc. The point I was trying to make is that the commonly accepted dates are generalisations, and that they are subjective; so worrying about a start date or an end date isn't particularly productive. |
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Presumably the logic for using c.450 - c.1500 is laid out in Volume 1 of the Medieval European Coinage series (which is not in my numismatic library ... yet).
Not being "schooled" in history, I found those defining characteristics around "those who work/fight/pray" interesting, though it makes me wonder how coinage, and specifically its design and use fits in that framework. I can even imagine that money and how it was used in the (medieval) economy could have one set of considerations/boundaries/dates, whereas its design and manufacture could have a different set?
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12/31/2025 12:26 pm
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Quote:just got 2 more in the mail and waiting on 3 more - when they arrive I'll post all 5..  |
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ok final 5 are here (finally) 1576 Riga Free City - Type 4 - 1 Shilling   |
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1577 Riga Free City - Type 4 - 1 Shilling Medal Alignment   |
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1577 Riga Free City - Type 4 - 1 Shilling Inverted 77 Coin Alignment   |
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1578 Riga Free City - Type 4 - 1 Shilling Inverted 78 Medal Alignment   |
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1579 Riga Free City - Type 4 - 1 Shilling Medal Alignment   |
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Very nice! I like that this series has some neat errors like upside down dates that (I am guessing) do not cost an-arm-and-a-leg. And it's a nice example of mixing only subtly religious devices (the crossed keys) with secular ones (city gates). I don't recall seeing that combo elsewhere. Genoa has a (stylized) city gate, but with a cross reverse. Of course many places have the crossed keys, but I don't recall one with a city gate on the other side (and I'm too lazy to search). Anyhow, Stefan Batory broke up the design a few years after he took the reigns. The keys are kept on the schilling, but the city gate is replaced by his monogram. That design persists till Sweden invades in the 30 years' war (1628 I think). The city gate moves over to the 1 groshcen coin that has his mug on the front (wait! the keys are there, too!):   Edited by tdziemia
01/11/2026 4:32 pm
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thanks tdz! That 1581 you posted is a very nice full dated Thaler Thanks for posting it here.  |
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Nice examples! |
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Thanks jbuck |
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Uncirculated American Silver Eagles 
