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The first is very "Byzantiney" with the facing bust a Greek legend. Though St. Peter is the antithesis of a "Byzantiney" saint  Quote:
That's a great Tancred Vic!  Antioch, Roger of Salerno 1112-1119, bronze follis, CCS 9 (my coin, but CNG's photos):  Copyright Classical Numismatic Group 2024 It took a bunch of Norman knights to create St. George's western iconography as (of course) a knight. The beginning of 900+ years of coins with St. George on horseback. Edited by tdziemia
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Cilician Armenia 1198-1219 1 Tram   |
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Thank you for sharing your lovely examples.  |
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Cilician Armenia 1198-1219 1 Tram That's a beauty! There is one type from that issuer on my radar as fitting one of my collecting themes. Only other Crusader State coin I have is the first medieval I ever owned. I don't know how old I was when I fished this out of a 25c or 50c bin at the Gimbels stamp & coin department in Paramus, NJ (remember when department stores had stamp & coin departments?). Maybe 12 or so? It sat in a 2x2 marked as unidentified French denier tournois for over 40 years until I developed some skill in reading medieval legends and figured out it was a Duchy of Athens denier tournois, probably Guy II de la Roche.   |
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remember when department stores had stamp & coin departments? I bought an Ike or two at a Sears.  |
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Here is a mid-14th Century Gros from the Kingdom of Cyprus (CCS 76):   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Thanks for showing your cool coins tdzeimia and keith!
That's a great looking silver also Spence!!!!
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Here is a mid-14th Century Gros from the Kingdom of Cyprus (CCS 76): Excellent! |
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remember when department stores had stamp & coin departments?
I bought an Ike or two at a Sears. I bought my very first ancient coin from Sears in Vancouver when I was ten. Anyhow, back on topic... I own several Crusader States coins, including one of those imitation-Islamic-style dirhams that (allegedly) bears an AD date (not unlike this example on CNG) - though mine is so badly mis-struck and clipped, I can't read it. The "knight of Antioch" denier image that's one of the options in the generic avatars on this forum is also one of mine:  Don't say "infinitely" when you mean "very"; otherwise, you'll have no word left when you want to talk about something really infinite. - C. S. Lewis
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I wish my knight was a sharp as your Sap, looks good! The cross kind of wiped out my guys face.
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@chrsmat71, as you pointed out in your original post, the cool thing about Crusader States is the cultural melange behind the coin designs: French inspired, Byzantine inspired, and as Sap points out, Islamic inspired.
The same thing was playng out in "Sicily" (geographically Sicily, Apulia and Calabria) around the same time, mid-11th to early 13th century. It's just lacking the "romance" of the Crusades.
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Islamic inspired Great point! Here is an example of an imitative Dirham minted in mid-13th Century Acre, Kingdom of Jerusalem (CCS 9):   "If you climb a good tree, you get a push."
-----Ghanaian proverb
"The danger we all now face is distinguishing between what is authentic and what is performed."
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Very interesting coins |
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That's a very cool coin!
And rounds out those three themes.
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I bought my very first ancient coin from Sears in Vancouver when I was ten.  Nice examples, Sap and Spence! |
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