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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I don't know squat about Morgans DV so I don't understand the surface either. Yea, the wing mark is incuse, I need to look at that closer sometime. I need to learn more about Morgans too!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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What does the obverse look like?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1424 Posts |
its the newly attributed THAD VAM 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1219 Posts |
My gut tells me this is all post mint damage of some nature. There appears to be a raised area around the vertical bar that should not be there if this was done at the time of striking. There is also horizontal damage to the eagles head that ends at the bar on each side. The damage to the wing seems to be a blow that continues down to the claws and arrow shafts. This is one that you wish you could reach into the screen and pluck the coin out to examine in hand.
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
19969 Posts |
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
19969 Posts |
Missed one: 
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Pillar of the Community
United States
2254 Posts |
In your first set of pictures, especially the last one of the set, I just don't see how post mint damage would retain the "orange peel" look down near the bottom of the mark. I would think something hard enough to make that much of an impression would also smooth out the area a bit. Having said that, I wonder if that explains the flatness in the hair curls on the obverse. Meaning that it was some type of hit, and the resultant pressure from the post mint strike flattened out the details.......  I'm riding both sides of the fence right now.
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New Member
United States
10 Posts |
That is post mint damage Tony
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10045 Posts |
Thad, I had another thought about that oval-shaped mark on the eagle's head--is there a design within that mark? There's something about the position that seems deliberate, as some kind of "chop mark" to check silver content?  I've seen other coins with chops across small designs and wanted to toss that idea out there. 
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Moderator
 United States
56855 Posts |
I'm no pro but here is my guess, post mint damage with either a sandblasted effect or maybe some sort of acid wash done after the damage. John1 
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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
19969 Posts |
I've been told the coin is a cast counterfeit. Anyone else agree?
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
693 Posts |
The orange peel SCREAMS fake, but I only know the Canadian versions.....
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3507 Posts |
We've been around the block on this one on another forum. The person who said it is fake is correct. This coin is completely phony.
Thanks, Bill
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Valued Member
United States
168 Posts |
Bill,
What gave it away? Was it the surface that was talked about earlier?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
1219 Posts |
Thad, totally unexpected from a member of your stature. I'm sure others also had doubts on this coin but gave benefit of doubt to answer the question posed.
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