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Is This Really Bu?

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 Posted 01/05/2010  12:07 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RobertBidniuk to your friends list
I might be wrong but I don't think it has to have a full head for it to be considered a BU, the full head designation is just a how sharp the strike was and if all the details came up during the strike, it could still be BU with a weak strike. Again someone please correct me if I am wrong.

Edit: Sorry biokemist6 we must have been posting at the same time.
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01/05/2010 12:13 am
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 Posted 01/05/2010  02:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
Robert you are correct, the FH destination is just about strike, it has nothing to do with the coin being circulated or not
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 Posted 01/05/2010  07:19 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Podoprigora to your friends list
http://cgi.ebay.com/1929-Standing-L...BU_W0QQitemZ290386837536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item439c678020#ht_3340wt_958 sorry here is the link. As you see face was robbed of
or something
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 Posted 01/05/2010  07:44 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
Looks uncirculated to me but I have to say some of this sellers coins bothers me. I know some people can manipulate pictures to make them look better than they actually do in hand, and some of this sellers coins if anyone anyone else had them the coins would be in a top TPG slab. here are a few examples http://cgi.ebay.com/1901-Barber-Hal...CE_W0QQitemZ290385216650QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item439c4ec48a and this http://cgi.ebay.com/1879-Trade-Doll...NG_W0QQitemZ270508555548QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item3efb90fd1c and even this one http://cgi.ebay.com/1874-Trade-Doll...RE_W0QQitemZ280445872901QQcmdZViewItemQQptZCoins_US_Individual?hash=item414be06b05 . Now I want to add I have never purchased nor seen any coins from this seller in hand but when I see coin after coin that look like these and them not be any in slabs I ask myself why
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 Posted 01/05/2010  08:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SeatedNut to your friends list
Bryan,

Your suspicions are understandable ... all nice looking coins and not in slabs. This seller could make twice the hammer price with PCGS slabbed coins.

I did make one purchase from this seller, an 1878-P Morgan VAM 116A (not attributed). He advertised it as AU and it was as advertised.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  10:57 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
If you are interested in reading about the strike qualities of SLQs, I recommend this article(it is a PDF file).
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 Posted 01/05/2010  5:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Moe145 to your friends list
Bryan1315 wrote:


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but I have to say some of this sellers coins bothers me.




The photography is usually not very representative of the coin in hand. I have purchased several coins from these folks and while the coins are ok when received, most of the pictures make most of their coins look better than real life.

Buyer beware!
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 Posted 01/05/2010  9:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jprine to your friends list
I agree with the comments about their photos. I recently purchased my first coin from them, a 49S fbl ms 64 Franklin. The coin was slabbed, so I knew what I was getting, but their photos looked much better than the slabbed coin when received. Oh yea, my ebay purchase of the franklin was about $40.00 cheaper than I could find anywhere else. That was my last coin to finish the set and I had been looking for awhile. I am happy with the coin.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  10:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Nice looking coin but I'm a little confused about the +++ after the BU? I would think this guy would have stated something like MS-65/66/67 etc.
So far there were 4 bidders when I looked so that means there are 4 people that want a +++ coin.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  10:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list

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Most BU SLQs do not have a full head(FH) which is why coins with the FH descriptor sell for a premium. A full head is one sign of a fully struck coin just like the bell lines on a Franklin half the bands on Mercs and Roosies.


Doesn't seem like a bad coin but personally I would wait for a different one with more head detail.
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 Posted 01/05/2010  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list
Bryan may well be on to something there. While the seller has a good feedback score (99.9%), the negative feedback pretty much all refers to overgraded coins. Check it out:

http://feedback.ebay.com/ws/eBayISA...interval=365
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 Posted 02/12/2010  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list
I purchased a coin from these folks. To me, in my opinion, the actual coin did not appear like the photo.
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 Posted 02/12/2010  01:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CheetahCats to your friends list
BTW, thanks Saruma. With your link, I was able to figure out how to view just negative feedbacks for ebay sellers.
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 Posted 02/12/2010  08:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenKat to your friends list
I knew which seller we were talking about without even following any of the links just based on the comments.

They seem to have a large following and get good money on their auctions but their reputation seems to be "the coin is not as nice as the photo".
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 Posted 02/12/2010  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add aladinslamp to your friends list
ITs amazing that GSC popped into my head at the first message I read, had to go to the first page and read to confirm my thoughts...Indeed its GSC,,,, I bought one coin one time, it looked MS65 took the picks blew them up and examined them in every detail, but alas its more like AU58 to MS60,, after seeing how many times the same proof was constantly back on the block I figured that I wouldn't gamble with those guys again,,,,most everything they list seem "SPARKLING CLEAN" ultrasonic perhaps? I think they can stay up there by NOT HAVING A grade and us thinking we are getting a TREMENDOUS buy for half the list....That should tell us something right there!!
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