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Where To Sell DD's & Wide AM's

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 Posted 01/30/2010  02:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bennie to your friends list
I'm having the same thoughts of selling my 99WAM...just don't want to set up another account for ebay nor PayPal...let me know what you wind up doing and how it goes...it will help me decide one way or the other.
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 Posted 01/30/2010  08:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add numismo to your friends list
Bennie did you ever think of getting it slabbed (if it's not already) and putting it on Teletrade or a big auction outlet like that ? Should bring more that way than the cheapies on ebay would bid.
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 Posted 01/30/2010  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
on ebay just be sure you post clear pictures and the coin is what you say it is, if you say its one thing and its something else it will ruin your reputation very fast on ebay and you will never sell anything. Members of forums like this one search all type of coins on ebay and when they find something that says its a DD or something else thats not true they definitely post it on those forums they frequent to show all the other collectors that the seller doesn't know what they are talking about. The reason I mention this is because we have had a member here that did this before and as I said he lost all credibility real fast as being a knowledgeable collector/seller
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 Posted 01/30/2010  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
For any of these coins, they have to be genuine and they should be looked at by an expert.

Some like the 1995 DDO are easy to discern but I have seen too many coins questioned here that were incorrectly identified by the persons posting the coins.

Wide AM and Close AM cents and other doubled dies need to be seen by an expert first.

Thanks,
Bill
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01/30/2010 9:30 pm
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 Posted 01/30/2010  7:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
that was why I posted what I did, I would hate to see another member fall to the "I know what it is no matter what everyone else says it is" category and lose all credibility on ebay because their knowledge is lacking and hard headiness makes them look foolish. It is ok for you to think you have what ever you dream they are but when it comes to selling your dreams to someone else its another story. If you think its one thing and the census from the experts say its not what you thought it was and you decide to sell it as what you dreamed up anyway then thats when everyone starts to have a problem and makes the seller look foolish because they have all the answers at their finger tips and still chose not to listen and then try to pawn their junk on someone else which for lack of a better word is scamming who ever buys the coin taking the dreamers word they know what it is
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 Posted 01/30/2010  9:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bennie to your friends list
Thanks for the info...and good advice. I posted pics of the WAM on Coppercoins site a month or so ago...it's a nice one. I am unsure about it's grade, but I expect AU55 or better. Numismo...what do those auction places charge to sell it?
Bryan...I appreciate your concern. I am certainly uncertain about Varieties, although I have been collecting Lincolns since 59. All those years DO NOT make me know what I need to know to do 'business' on the net. I definately do not want to lose any credibility before I earn any...lol. Again, thanks again. And Joe, I did not mean to hijack your thread! Sorry.
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 Posted 01/30/2010  11:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
Bennie, there is nothing wrong with not knowing what you have. That is what this place and other like it is for, to teach people that want to learn what to look for. Its the people that have it in their head that no matter what everyone else says they have what they thought they had and no matter if everyone on every forum says differently they still have it in their head that it is what they thought. That is all fine and dandy until they start trying to sell these coins that everyone else disagreed on as what they thought it was (when in fact it wasn't) that we have a problem with. I love to see people find coins that are worth more than what they have in it and love to be the one to give them the good news, but some people think every coin they see is a some sort of error and just don't want to listen when they experts tell them it isn't. If errors were so readily available they wouldn't be so expensive. and no one person is going to find 40 errors in every roll that has 50 coins in it no matter what they think they see. Most of us have been at this forum thing long enough to have seen both sides of this situation, we have seen the people that thought they found something special and it turn out to not be what they thought it was, and we have seen the buyers of such coins where the seller told them it was so and so and they come here only to find out the coin they paid multiple times of face for is only worth face value. That is why we take it so seriously and try to stop these sellers with all we have because it is disheartening to have to tell a young numismatist or anyone for that matter they got ripped off. I have seen many new collectors not even want to collect any more because they got taken early on in their collecting life because they feel the whole hobby is bad because they spent all their money on something worthless
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 Posted 01/31/2010  01:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
What Bryan states makes good sense. Know exactly what you have first
off. If a rarer variety/error get it authenticated and professionally
graded. If you find and authenticate a very rare coin do not put it on ebay. Use one of a few auction houses. Do your homework first.
This forum has probably the most experts on coins etc. Read, listen
and learn.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  02:13 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bennie to your friends list
Indeed, this is a great forum with many knowledgeable people who are always willing to help. I posted this coin on Coppercoins site and it appears to be the 99 WAM. I do believe it is the real deal as Charles Daughtrey and Bob Piazza did not seem to have any doubts from the pics I posted. Of course, it is only the real deal once it is slabbed or attributed I would guess. Anyone can post a pic of something on the net that might not be their own...it has been done, I am certain. Thank you for all the responses.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  09:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Indian1 to your friends list
The 3 Wams 98,99,00 are fairly easy to attribute
and really not worth the premium for a slab.
Of course some people go ahead and have them certified.
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 Posted 01/31/2010  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
I went back to Chuck's site to see the picture again. It looks good and I want to ask one question. Is the obverse and reverse oriented in the proper direction or does the coin appear to be a rotated die strike?

It is tough to authenticate these 100% by an image but it is almost a slam dunk that the coin is genuine if it DOES NOT seem to be a wildly rotated die.

These coins have been faked in the same way a Magician's coin is made, A shell of a 1999 cent obverse is created and then filled with a reverse from a Wide AM coin. One thing that almost always seems to get missed when these coins is faked is the positioning of the reverse in relation to the obverse.

I fully expect the coin that Bennie has to be genuine but it should be authenticated before it is sold.

Thanks,
Bill
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 Posted 02/01/2010  12:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bennie to your friends list
When I took the pics, I just flipped the coin over without reguard...I looked at the coin in question and it is not rotated...just the way I flipped it I guess. I got a new hand held scope/camera for Christmas and I am yet to take very good pics with it. I will take your advice and have it authenticaed. Thank you for looking.
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 Posted 02/01/2010  3:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
The WAM's are very easy to attribute, especially by looking at the FG. Nonetheless, I've seen multitudes of "false" Wide AM's on ebay being sold by the ignorant.

On another note, I don't believe it's a waste to have them slabbed if they are of high enough grade, especially the 1999. I'm going today to pick up mine from my dealer, it's a 1999 WAM NGC MS-65 RD.
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 Posted 02/01/2010  7:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add foundinrolls to your friends list
Hi Bennie,

Your piece sounds genuine:-) Thanks for the added info pertaining to its normal obverse to reverse orientation.

That's a GREAT Find! I remember finding them early on when I lived in PA. I get sick when I think how much I sold them for when they didn't know how rare they might be:-(

have Fun,
Bill
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 Posted 02/02/2010  04:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add joe finds to your friends list
Sorry, been out for a bit. cought someone selling their coin collection in the newspaper. A 30 year trip for him. anyway, I've read all posts here. Lots of good info. I would expect a higher premium if coins are slabbed and then sold. It sure seems to be a time and money factor. But I would think if your pictures are tight along with your personal description, as well as a money back promise, both buyer and seller would be happy in the end. But there should be a standard starting dollar amount that a coins actual value to be that mandates it to be slabbed for sale.
so, thanks ,,, good words from all for all.
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