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What Do You Think About This Flying Eagle

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 Posted 06/30/2006  7:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
a pattern is a coin struck to see if they are going to use the design of the coin, since the coin is already copper I am guessing they would use copper for the pattern cent as well, but I have seen Morgan Patterns made of copper as well because copper is softer than silver. I guess a pattern coin is the same as a pattern of anything else, just an example of what it would look like when made in mass production
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 Posted 06/30/2006  7:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
I have looked everywhere and cant find that dern pattern coin I was talking about anywhere but I know I saw one without the words around the eagle
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 Posted 06/30/2006  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Diane to your friends list
So are patterns worth anything? Seems like they would be interesting.
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 Posted 06/30/2006  7:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
Found It!!!!!!! http://coins.heritageauctions.com/c...10593&src=pr

I Bet that 1000.00 bid on ebay doesn't look to bad now does it?
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06/30/2006 7:47 pm
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 Posted 06/30/2006  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Diane

So are patterns worth anything? Seems like they would be interesting.




Oh Yeah! they are worth a whole bunch some people only collect patterns and are willing to pay the big bucks for them, just like the one In the link above
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 Posted 06/30/2006  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list
very true bryan1315 but with heritage you get peace of mind and I amsure they back up what they sell... And diane As bryan says they are valuable .look in the back of a Red Book you will see some amazing peices that werent used.
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 Posted 06/30/2006  9:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bryan1315 to your friends list
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Originally posted by scoutjim99

very true bryan1315 but with heritage you get peace of mind and I amsure they back up what they sell... And diane As bryan says they are look in the back of a Red Book you will see some amazing peices that werent used.

I agree with heritage you kind of know what you are getting and with ebay its a stuffshoot but if I had the money to burn I would probably bid 1000.00 on a coin that sold on heritage for 16,000.00 just to say I took a chance and it could have gone in my favor. I am also one that will hit on 18 in blackjack hoping for a 3 so maybe I am just a rare breed
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 Posted 06/30/2006  9:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list
Wow...$16,100 plus 15% for a pattern...
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 Posted 06/30/2006  9:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list
well if I had the money to gamble, I would also, but I am not sure . The person who pulled this out and posted it was one of the premere experts on the series Rick Snow, so I would believe he would know more than me, anyway.. Thats the real factor to me
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 Posted 06/30/2006  11:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list
Ive seen coins like this Flying Eagle. Since it is a pattern it must have been made before the first Flying Eagle. Am I correct?
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 Posted 06/30/2006  11:14 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
Yes you are correct laxmaster. That is what a "pattern" is. Here's the description from the CCF Glossary.

PATTERN
A test striking of a coin produced to demonstrate a proposed design, size, or composition (whether adopted or not). Patterns often are made in metals other than the one proposed; examples of this include aluminum and copper patterns of the silver Trade dollar. Off-metal strikes such as this also are referred to as die trials of a pattern.
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 Posted 06/30/2006  11:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list
THanks for the clearing up. Do patterns ever cirulate as regular coins without anyone knowing?
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 Posted 06/30/2006  11:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add laxmaster92 to your friends list
Was the eagle from the Flying Eagle cent taken from the Gobrecht dollar? I'm just wondering becuase I saw this dollar and I knew I saw that kiond of eagle before and then it hit me lol.
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 Posted 07/01/2006  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scoutjim99 to your friends list
I do believe it was this is a Longacre design technically but the the eagle on this cent is very similar to the dollar you mentioned, I do believe in the past patterns have circulated, in change and people didnt know about it .. but know aday I believe they use a martha washingtom image as a pattern. so it cant be confused
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 Posted 07/01/2006  12:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
Yes, Scoutjim the Flying Eagle is a James Longacre design. There are very slight differences in the Longacre eagle versus the Gobrecht design. The Gobrecht eagle has a slightly longer, opened beak. The feathers also are very similar but ever so slightly different. There may be more obvious differences but, I am not a Gobrecht collector. I do however collect the Flying Eagle cents.

I'm also sure that a few (very few) pattern coins will now and again slip into circulation.
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