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Mastermind I - Winner! Steve199/Nod2003

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 Posted 05/05/2010  09:18 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list
oh - and congrats Steve, and nod too! Thanks for a fun contest scooby
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 Posted 05/05/2010  09:24 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Thanks xshift. I really had fun putting this on, except for the fumble!
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 Posted 05/05/2010  12:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list

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LOL! xshift, at least svslav didn't come out shooting me with light year calculations!


That is because with your contest we start with mere
13x12x...x7 = 8,648,640 possible permutations, and it gets narrowed down fast with your feedback to each entry.

I like the contests when one needs to think (or know) rather than just guess. So, in my books, this was a good one. Thanks for the contest!

Oh, and congrats Steve!
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 Posted 05/05/2010  12:15 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Thanks svslav! I enjoyed it, too. I figured around 14-16 guesses to solve it, and was right on target. By the way, what do you do that involves fractals?
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 Posted 05/05/2010  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list

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What about "one guess per person per day" were changed to "you can take a second guess the same day, but it will be you final answer. If you are wrong - you can no longer play"?


Sounds like a good idea to me!


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If you wanted to make it longer, you could allow the possibility of having multiple instances of the same currency,


I also like nod's idea, too. Vastly increases the possible solutions, and the strategy I used to solve this wouldn't even have worked.



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 Posted 05/05/2010  12:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Thanks for the feedback!

Coins are in the mail guys! You caught me just in time on my way to work! I hope they are worthy of your collections!

I kinda like the "2nd guess" rule, not sure about allowing duplicates. I think I'd rather expand the list and number to pick. But, we'll see!
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 Posted 05/05/2010  12:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list

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If you wanted to make it longer, you could allow the possibility of having multiple instances of the same currency,


I also like nod's idea, too. Vastly increases the possible solutions, and the strategy I used to solve this wouldn't even have worked.


That would increase the number of start up options to 13 to the 7th power (provided that we need to choose from 13 currencies), or 62,748,517 outcomes.

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By the way, what do you do that involves fractals?


I teach Math at a college. Can't you tell?

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 Posted 05/05/2010  1:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Good for you! I have a tremendous amount of respect for teachers and professors!

I seen a program on Discovery or The Learning Channel or something where fractals are starting to be used in 3-D programming/animation. Just wondered if you were in one of those fields. Fascinating stuff, those fractals.

Now if I can just figure out how to apply them to my currency trading...
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 Posted 05/05/2010  1:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list

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That would increase the number of start up options to 13 to the 7th power (provided that we need to choose from 13 currencies), or 62,748,517 outcomes.


Nonetheless, different guessing strategies could still narrow down the possible answers pretty quickly, correct? Guesses containing 7 different symbols towards the beginning of the game would provide the least amount of feedback.
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 Posted 05/05/2010  1:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add afcop13 to your friends list
Scooby - great contest, congrats Steve199.

Also - May 22nd there is a small show in Brandon @ the Eagles Club.
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 Posted 05/05/2010  1:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Go Eagles! My alma mater!

Thanks for the heads up on the Brandon show! You gonna be there? If so, I'll look you up.

I'll look like this:
Mastermind-I----Winner!--Steve199/Nod2003


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 Posted 05/05/2010  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add svslav to your friends list

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Nonetheless, different guessing strategies could still narrow down the possible answers pretty quickly, correct?


Absolutely! For example, choosing

NZD, NZD, NZD, NZD, NZD, NZD, NZD

would either confirm the presence of this currency or wipe it off the list, which would narrow down your options considerably.
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 Posted 05/05/2010  2:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list
I was thinking something along the lines of a similar guess:

NZD, NZD, NZD, NZD, NZD, NZD, USD

If answer is 1/0, assume USD is in the list, and NZD isn't.

If the answer is 1/1, assume NZD is in the list, and USD isn't.

Employ similar assumptions based on other possible answers given. But in this game format, with several people guessing, having a logical progression from one guess to the next goes out the window.
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 Posted 05/05/2010  2:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Scooby Due to your friends list
Not necessarily, 1/0 still leaves the possibility that NZD is on the list and in the last position. And 1/1 leaves USD as being in the right place.
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 Posted 05/05/2010  4:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add steve199 to your friends list
Scooby, by "assume", I mean that the odds are in heavily in that favor...point the next guesses in that direction hoping to confirm that and learn something new.
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