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The Dreaded Coin Cleaning(Pictures Included)

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 Posted 06/07/2010  4:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tim Stroud to your friends list
Rust? Were they found in an area known for a lot of iron ore? Rust is iron oxide and will not form on silver. I would suggest a good long soak in some olive oil. Say for at least several months.
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 Posted 06/07/2010  10:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list
I do metal detecting so I'm familiar with coins that have been in the ground a long time. What environment were they found in? In normal soil silver coins should usually come out looking pretty good (occasionally with tarnish, though usually not). Did you find them at the beach? That can be a whole different story. There the coins are almost always black. Often they have sand fused to them, and the corrosion on the coin makes it bumpy. I have a VERY rough looking Merc that I found at the beach a while back that does look like it has rust on one side. My guess is that iron in the sand might have had an effect.

My other thought is that if they were found in a buried cache maybe they were stored in a iron or steel container and that rusted. Being in contact with iron would allow for some of the rust to transfer to the coin.

Anyway, here is the best website I've seen on cleaning coins. Maybe it will help.
http://metaldetectingworld.com/clea...n_coin.shtml
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 Posted 06/08/2010  03:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryder5000 to your friends list
Well these coins were actually a complete luck find. Some old guy had actually put them in the ring of a tractor tire. Not only did he do that. He also buried the tractor tire. NOT ONLY did he do that, but he planted a tree over it too. So once we removed the tree, we had to get rid of the stump. Well that tractor tire was in our way and we wondered what the heck it was doing buried anyways. So when we got it moved around a bit we found some glass shards. We looked inside and found a combination of about 400-500 peace and Morgan dollars. My parents took the spoils and the divorce separated the coins. So now each have an ice cream pail full and only my mother has allowed me to take a peek at hers. I helped her put a price on what she had and that's about the only reason she let me see them. I guess they just don't trust their own son enough with looking at them :P. BUT I was over at my fathers trying to convince him to let me get a peek at his. It's going to take some work to get him to take that stash out. He distracted me with silver coins and wheat pennies and I guess I'll just have to keep trying to get to that very expensive ice cream pail to even get the slightest idea of what that was worth altogether.

ALSO: Think it's a good idea to get a metal detector ;P? That guy did not die a poor man. He also had a very, very definite hate for banks. My mom would tell me stories of how she would find candy boxes filled with cash in his store and tell him that he needed a new hiding place for it since she found them. We've unearthed plenty of antique jars from the property, but ever since that tractor tire, none have contained anything but the glass themselves.
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 Posted 06/08/2010  3:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Wow....that's a crazy story, thanks for sharing. I'd DEFINATELY get a detector and start looking. If he buried one set of coins, there's probably another set somewhere.
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 Posted 06/08/2010  5:18 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
Well you can still see the silver peeking out from underneath. I think they are definitely savable. Just be very careful with how you restore them (notice I didn't say clean )
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 Posted 06/08/2010  5:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add livingdinasaur to your friends list
By all means, get a metal detector! Two good reasons: One pot does not make a treasure trove, but it indicates the need to do much more searching. The other reason, is that when you are older, and not as active as now, you will find "metaldetecting is as good as any other tpype of exercise! that is where it pays off. Younonly need a place to search, and a way to get there. These two reasons are why my machine is hanging in the shed :(((
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 Posted 06/08/2010  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add pls to your friends list
Shoot, I'll bring my metal detector and go to work!
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 Posted 06/08/2010  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TSOTL to your friends list
Hmmm, anymore trees on that property?
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 Posted 06/08/2010  10:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryder5000 to your friends list
Plenty. But we found this AFTER the property was bulldozed.So I'm guessing the majority of his collection is well burried. I'd like to get out there with a metal detector sometime but I can't seem to even get my hands on one.
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 Posted 06/08/2010  10:38 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Hummmm.....brown, seems to indicate oxidized iron. Have you tried simply rinsing them under warm running water (no rubbing)?
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 Posted 06/08/2010  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Check to make sure there are no rare dates before you do anything....if there are, I'd send them for professional conservation instead.
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 Posted 06/09/2010  03:43 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinsucker to your friends list
Rinse the mud & dirt off very carefully, under a slow stream under the faucet is fine....just don't abrade the surface in any way....'nother words, just let the water work...no rubbing...hope this helps....Billy
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 Posted 06/09/2010  10:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sublime118 to your friends list
That story is way cool. I would definately invest in a medal detector. You might have found $500 out of $100,000!! Keep looking and keep us informed of your findings.

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 Posted 06/09/2010  3:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ryder5000 to your friends list
If there's a non key date that you're looking for I'm sure my mother would be willing to sell it to you if we have it seeing as the rest are going to a coin shop for probably half the price (morgan wise since that's all I have sorted for now). I see harsh cleaning damage on a few coins, but I'm using no chemicals to clean what I can off of these rusted ones. Just plain ol' water. We do have a 1928 S peace that's a bit dirty but I'm sure some of you know how to get that off better than I do. Just send me a PM of what you're looking for. I know for a fact that we have no key dates between Morgan or Peace. Anything else there is a chance.
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 Posted 06/09/2010  4:26 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add parkquarters to your friends list
Are there any more trees around there ? thanks for shareing
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