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Bizarre Ebay Listing For PCGS Proof Nickel, Mangled By Ai.

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I won't contaminate the forum images with this coin, but I thought this was a pretty hilarious listing. Clearly the seller's images are AI "enhanced". Why, I cannot say, because the pictures actually seem pretty reasonable. It's like one of those side-by-side picture puzzles where you spot all the things that are wrong. Enjoy!

https://www.ebay.com/itm/267718517134
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The reverse is wild! Thanks for posting this.
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Plus a 180 degree rotated reverse and mis-spelled Monticello. Now that's a spicy meatball!
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Hmm... Legitimate looking seller, actually... I almost want to spend the $26 to get "the exact coin pictured"
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This listing was ended by the seller on Mon, Jul 6 at 9:32 AM because there was an error in the listing.
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I wonder if it may be more sinister than just ai enhancing. I have heard nefarious types in certain Asian countries are now faking slabs as well as coins, and this might be an example. ebay, Etsy, and temu all have 1909 s vdb cents for under $20, but none slabbed, yet.

PCGS cert check comes up as PR67 1960 5¢.

Looks like he just pulled the listing. Take a look at his other offerings. Looks like he is pulling everything. I'm not accusing anyone of anything, but hmmmm.

Just checked again and all listings have been pulled.
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I asked the seller about these issues.
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Plus a 180 degree rotated reverse and mis-spelled Monticello.

What I found interesting is that it maintained uniform letter spacing on the word, even though it removed the second L.

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I wonder if it may be more sinister than just ai enhancing. I have heard nefarious types in certain Asian countries are now faking slabs as well as coins, and this might be an example.

Well, I rather doubt that a counterfeiter would go to the trouble of striking a fake proof nickel, when you can buy a real one for less than $1. Faking the images to make a coin more appealing? Definitely.

I am also left with the question of how much effort it would take to generate a complete set of augmented photos for an ebay listing, rather than just using the original images.
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Those are some really bold full steps--all three of them!
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Well, I rather doubt that a counterfeiter would go to the trouble of striking a fake proof nickel, when you can buy a real one for less than $1. Faking the images to make a coin more appealing? Definitely.

I am also left with the question of how much effort it would take to generate a complete set of augmented photos for an ebay listing, rather than just using the original images.


Maybe they are practicing on faking proof and slab coins before they move on to higher priced samples. He had dozens of slabbed coins with 180 degree rotated reverses, some modern and a few classic. It might have been ai images, but as you say, why would he bother on dozens of listings? It's all very strange.

I find it very telling that he pulled every listing he had immediately after you contacted him. Including many that were not coins. I wish I had grabbed more screen shots. It is also concerning he had 99.6% positive reviews (784) with 1.3k items sold, although that is easy to fake. Selling since 2007 is not easy to fake.

"This is the exact coin that is what I have" might also be a clue. Maybe. He also had a few slabbed Pandas in his listings. Hmmmm.
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Those are some really bold full steps--all three of them!

That's what first drew my eye, right before I realized that the whole coin face was wonky. I especially like those weird spike things on the steps from the arches. There must be some kind of significance to its dreamy little bot brain, because it did that symmetrically on both sides of the building.
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LOL, and now having written that, I just realized that there are no arches! It replaced them with a third bank of windows.
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Oh boy.
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