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Pillar of the Community
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I believe the MM is set left, either way Its not matching up well.. I had considered VAM 44,49,72 for the Large "S" the med "S" don't seem to match up well either..looks to be a double date as well... |
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I figured that the spiked eye would help but can't find any of the VAMs that mention it.
Every time I look at this coin, I find something else to mention it seems.
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What did I tell you dumprat? I don't know anything about attributing vams, (I didn't even know there was such a thing as small, medium and large Ss, but since you mentioned 'large S', and it did seem kinda big, that I would go along with that).
I do know this much though, anytime I stick my foot in my mouth like I did, those who do know better, seem to spring into action, from the woodwork, from thin air, from everywhere, I guess that is why I continue to do it, I get a chance to learn as I am being shamed.
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Pillar of the Community
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The mm looks like a med one too me but that could be the photo as it is not straight up and down, it looks like it was taken looking up and from the side. All of my 1880 S large mm's look more defined.
The (1) doubling looks much like the Vam-12. I have 2 of them I just got back from JR and do not have the spiked eye.
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just got back from the gun range, checking in on the progress here..an additional point is there is a chip in the second 8 upper loop. haven't found anything to compare it with. the trouble is most of these listings are like I2R3 at best so not much has been documented for these extra points, I think the basics will have to narrow it down,
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Well, thanks for all the help. I guess I will be labeling it as the infamous..."Double Date"
Hope to find another interesting coin to share.
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Pillar of the Community
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just leave it on the back burner.. sometimes it's just that way, not enough info to truely nail it down.it's always great to re-pick you own stuff too! when you learn more and new info is out you can finally get a handle on it!
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I am not impressed VAM experts.....In fact I am rather disappointed. Dumprat (or can I just call you 'rat'?) your coin is: VAM - 60 The line in the mm is a pup as is the doubled 1. (The eye spike can be your 'secret' pup). Edited by zeewool
08/05/2010 08:41 am
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Valued Member
United States
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You know zeewool...you look to be correct. I tend to look at the ones with pics first and I just looked at that VAM on Vamworld a few days ago but must of read through the description too fast. Anybody else agree with VAM-60? |
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Rat, unfortunately, it seems as though I may have poisoned the water, and there will be no confirmation. (Trust me, it 'is' vam-60 anyway).
I do not expect the silence of 'my friends' to last much longer though, as they will eventually man up and allow a novice like myself to get lucky every once in a while.
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dumprat and zeewool, sorry to take so long with an opinion, been playing with cents lately. Although the top loop shows a line within, this is not the curved arc that one would associate with a RPM. VAM 7, while having nothing to do with this coin, shows the remnents one would expect on a RPM. Dumprats picture does clearly show the partially filled lewer loop. My opinion, VAM 61. |
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MorgansRmine, I am very sorry, but the statute of limitations in this case has expired, and you are too late to voice an opinion, so yours doesn't count.  Just kidding buddy, and that would be a very good guess, except for the fact that the date doubling on the '1' is on the wrong side of the crossbars to be 61. (The Rat's coin is vam-60). Edited to add: I am not convinced that vam-60 is RPM. I don't know 'who' made the determination based on 'what' rationale, maybe it is, maybe it isn't, the cause of the line is immaterial. The die is the die concept is what takes precedence here. Edited by zeewool
08/07/2010 5:08 pm
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except for the fact that the date doubling on the '1' is on the wrong side of the crossbars to be 61. (The Rat's coin is vam-60). 60 and 61 use the same obverse die. As does VAM-48, which has the best pics of the doubled 1. I agree that this is likely the obverse die of dumprat's coin, but without the characteristic inside loop of the S/S, I'm mystified as to which VAM it is. |
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The information that I look at is several years old, and must be outdated then.
Nevertheless, (unless my ancient files misguide me again) the difference between 60 & 61 would lie in the mm.
The line in the 60 mm is supposedly located in the 'middle' of the upper loop.
The line(s) in the 61 are at the 'top' of the upper loop and middle of lower loop.
I really don't see the confusion here.
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Pillar of the Community
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it's 1:42 am just getting into town and soon to be out of town and I am still confusede? I will look again when
I get back into town.
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