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New Member
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Scotty...you read my mind and my original intention of this long term investment and its diversification from the standard equity investments, 529's, etc! And Rush, you are right on the money in my opinion. However, Harvard might just be a tad over 161K in 2018! On a serious note, would it be better to purchase high grade business strike coins or proof coins? Again, sorry for my naivete, but I have learned much from the group and your insight is always much appreciated. Laimbeer4452
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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IMO, the PF/MS 70 coins will not hold up in value. I'd focus on older rarer coins. I recently wanted to get an 1886-S Morgan (mintage 750,000) and had trouble finding one at a coin show with 35 coin dealers. That tells me that it's worth buying. People love Morgans and the rarer ones will always move. That's certainly not to say that you have to focus just on Morgans. Just my opinion.
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Valued Member
United States
376 Posts |
You can never go wrong with the classics!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11951 Posts |
In my opinion, buying high grade modern proof coins for a investment, would not be a good idea. There may be some possible good buys in modern business strike coins, if they can be had for the right price. I am thinking that Washington quarters from 1999 and up, will end up being one of the top collected series for many years to come. New and young collectors will want to put sets together, Boy Scouts will be putting them together for their merit badge. Grand parents will put sets together for their grand kids and so on.... High grade examples of many of these, in business strike are hard to find. Try finding a Georgia or Tennessee in MS-66 or higher .. and you will see. If you were wanting to get high grade proof coins, then possibly the older proofs if bought at the right price could be a good investment, early proof Lincolns, Indian Head cent, Seated coins ect... Still, I think, most on here would agree that for investment, buying the "key" coins from series that are most collected would be the best chance of seeing a good profit. Of course you have to buy them at a good price to start with. Keys coins like Lincoln cents 1909 S vdb, 1909 S, 1914 D. Semi key like 1931 S. Jefferson nickel1939 D, 1942 D, 1950 D Washington quarter1932 D, 1932 S 1921 ... nickels, dimes and half dollars Of course there are many Morgan dollars that can be a good investment. These are just a few examples.
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Valued Member
United States
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I am going to agree with several others and say that key date coins seem like a better investment than high grade modern coins. People are always going to want the key dates for their collections and they are not getting any easier to find.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
20753 Posts |
My suggestion is to just put the money in a bank's saving account with your son's name on it. Or if you want something that may grow, try some type of mutual funds or stocks with a decent broaker if there is such a thing. If where you work has a 401K, just put as much in there as you can. The reason I mention this is you really have no idea of what your Son may want, like, etc. in the future. As an example, my Som could care less if I had Bullion, Gold Bars, millions in coins, a Uranium Minee, etc. Way, way back I tried to interest him in coins but that failed as with most kids today. Note the very few younger people at a coin show or coin store? If in the future my Son should get my coin collection it would probably just end up in a bank. Maybe some dealer for one lump sum. If I were you I'd wait until he is old enough for you to see what his interest really are. Ostherwise in the not to distant future you may go into shock when you see him dump all that bullion, coins, etc for some electronic equipment, hot car, girls, etc.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Just a thought...maybe do it all twice...just in case you have a second kid.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I agree with just carl, coins are usually not a good investment, especially since most new collectors get ripped off at the beginning and it usually takes years of research to really understand the market. There is definitely no "magic investment" in numismatics. If you have to, I agree with most with the key date idea. Always remember to do a lot of research and gather up some knowledge of coins and the market before buying anything.
Many people think the older coins gt, the more expensive that becomes, but is very rarely true.
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New Member
United States
22 Posts |
don't fall for these modern day hype (B.S.) MS/PR70 crap.buy him some nice seated/Barber silver type coins.
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Valued Member
United States
487 Posts |
Laimbeer4452, I am collecting silver bullion as well for my 2 daughters to deve up when my time is right . I collect ASE, bullion bars and rounds when the price is right.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Quote:Laimbeer4452, I am collecting silver bullion as well for my 2 daughters to deve up when my time is right . I collect ASE, bullion bars and rounds when the price is right. Hate to sound continuously pessimistic but again if you go to coin shows or coin stores attempt to count all the females there. Possibly less than 1%. Just not what girls or women are into and even less today than a few years ago. Don't know how old those daughters are now but if old enough just ask them if they are interested in Silver bullion. Might find out they would rather have clothing, food, electronic stuff, a cell phone, etc. Mostly the cell phone.
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New Member
 United States
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Justcarl, Points very well made and well received. It is worth noting that this is only one of several investment strategies that I employ, and I really don't consider the bullion/coin collecting as an investment per se. I already max the 401K and have been for years, have multiple mutual funds in multiple sectors to diversity, contribute the max in the 529. The coin and bullion collection/investment is just an add-on to my existing strategy. Personally, I find this most recent "addiction" one that I can pass on as a heir of sorts. If in 18-20 years my son has no interest in this, well, I would buy a penthouse condo in FL!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
11951 Posts |
Iaimbeer4452.
I agree with what your saying. I do not think asking your kids how you should invest your money is the right answer.
I hope you did get the answer to your original question. I think most gave the opinion that buying high grade modern coins may not be a good investment.
The hardest thing about collecting coins as a investment, is knowing what the right price is. If you over pay for a coin, it could take many years just to get even. And a chance you may never make a profit, on some coins.
My best advice is to learn about a certain series of coins. Learn how to grade them, how to buy them and how to sell them. The best deals you will come across, will be when you have a opportunity to buy a coin and from experience you know what it is worth and what it buys and sells for.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Every year for probably 20 to 30 years or more I give one Red Book, One Proof set, One Uncirculated set from the Mint to many, sort of family members on Christmas. Started when they were all kids and continues to this day. Every year they all look less and less thankful for that stuff. When they were kids they all appeared to like them but time has made things different. Now mostly all with families of their own, much more important things than coins.
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Valued Member
United States
188 Posts |
I agree with most of what everyone is saying. The newer MS70 coins are not rare and in my heart I couldn't justify paying what they cost. They are worth the price of an ounce of silver to me, plus a few bucks at most. My buddy's coin shop is a bulk buyer of ASE's and they sent 5k in to get slabbed and had over 50% come back 70's for the 2010 run. The populations of the 70 coins are huge. High end key dates will hold their value. Morgans, Lincolns and Gold Indians are where my long term investments go. I've been working on my own sort of retirement plan using coins. I have been hanging around coin shops for 20 years 10-20 hours a week trying to pick-up the trade. Some have even hired me to work for them. The last 15 years I've been building inventory to open my retirement shop. I certainly don't plan to make a bunch of money buy opening it. I just think it will be a great way to spend retirement, shooting th ebull with your regulars about coins. Heck, I'd do that for free. After 30 years in the Military, I think spending a few years playing with coins will be a nice break.
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