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Any Advise On Becoming A Coin Dealer?

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 Posted 08/04/2006  10:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add rggoodie to your friends list
Before you take this giant step
Contact one of our forum members
Bigfella

He has recently gone through this adjustment he can tell you of all of the pitfalls and joys associated with working for yourself in the world of coins.

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 Posted 08/04/2006  10:15 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
Once you meet all of the minimum posts on the CCF you can begin trades, sells and buys right here. It's a small but, relatively inexpensive way to get your feet wet - so to speak.

You will definitely (and already have) received some great advice and I'm sure will receive more from dealers and experts right on this forum.

Good luck!
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 Posted 08/04/2006  11:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fengk to your friends list
You'll need a lot of contacts to get certain coins if you have customers that would be interested in buying them. If you go to a small, local coin show try talking to some of the dealers there, and perhaps making a few purchases. They'd be an excellent source of information.
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 Posted 08/04/2006  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add djluster to your friends list
to go along with habiru001. If you are doing it as your main source of income it may be hard. I have as well thought of this same thing. But after talking to my local coin dealer a very honest dealer. He said it is very hard to make a lot of money in coin. He said most dealer who do make a lot ussally ripe people off. so if you are honest you can make a living at it but not alot. so if you have a second income then go for it. make sure to do your home work. Also talk to Susan forum mom about this and also Bigfella.
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 Posted 08/04/2006  11:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dsking to your friends list
djluster - I am impressed by you more and more everyday! You have a wonderful future with your knowledge and maturity. If you were a coin dealer I wouldn't think twice about making a purchase from you - you know why? Your honesty! Thanks!
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 Posted 08/04/2006  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ageka to your friends list
For five years me and my wife have held an Haute Couture Boutique
( French clothes only )
We were attrackted by the high margins which were like 700%
My wife did the sales and I did accounting and taxes etc

Now there are two killers
One is fixed cost , like rent, lighting, heating etc
The other is unsellable inventory
After the sales season this years clothes cannot be given away next year and yet depreciation in Belgium is max 20% per year
So you have a fortune in inventory that is no longer saleble and eats your capital

We went into voluntary receivership with 30 000 dollars in inventory on the books that was worth nothing because of the tax laws

Nowadays with the internet one can get around the fixed cost by having a virtual shop only
How you get around the dead inventory I would not know
If you want to make money at coins you need some pretty good ideas that are not bled to dead by the competition yet
Like our coindealers in Brussels get entire busloads of English and American vendors all looking for gradeble coins at ungraded prices

Take a look at what this Brussel shop will pay for american gold
I phoned a few times to buy and got the same story
An american came by and bought the whole consignment
Of course when the shop buys it is the shop that grades the coin

http://www.gold4ex.be/servlet/javap...or_new&lg=nl
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 Posted 08/04/2006  2:04 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Metalman to your friends list
The above posts contain some very good info ,, and the thoughts presented are well worth the time needed to consider.

One other small point !! Full time coin dealers are seldom also collectors !!

Its just another one of those anomolies like the village Mechanic rarely drives the best running car !!

Rick
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 Posted 08/04/2006  4:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add SsuperDdave to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Metalman

The above posts contain some very good info ,, and the thoughts presented are well worth the time needed to consider.

One other small point !! Full time coin dealers are seldom also collectors !!

Its just another one of those anomolies like the village Mechanic rarely drives the best running car !!

Rick



Dealers shouldn't collect for the same reason bartenders shouldn't drink.

Margins in coin dealing are not large. If you want to make $30,000 per year profit selling coins, be ready to have $100,000 tied up in inventory at all times.
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 Posted 08/04/2006  10:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add toast to your friends list
quote:
Originally posted by Metalman

...Full time coin dealers are seldom also collectors !!



It definitely takes a different mindset to sell coins if your a collector.
The only way that anyone can make money in tradeing coins is to buy at a low price and sell at a higher price. The difference is what you get to live on, pay bills and buy more coins. Sure would take the "Fun" out of the hobby.

There is a fixed number of older coins and no wholesale manufacturer producing them now more cheaply. Getting a cheap supply of coins would have to be the biggest problem. Collectors are also on the look out for a cheap supply of coins at "dealer prices".

I'd say this is a hard industry to make money in, unless you are in the slabbing business. My impression is there is a lot of money being spent for opinions.
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 Posted 08/04/2006  11:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list
Anyone can sell coins! Buying them and keeping inventory is the problem. I tried for a couple of years and enjoyed every minute of it. Finding quality, affordable inventory was a huge time consumming task. Most importantly coin collectors DON'T want to sell their coins as they are buyers. You are then dealing with other dealers or the unknowledgable who think every coin they own is worth thousands. Buying is REALLY tough and having deep pockets is also tremendous help as you never know what may walk into your door next! Quite honestly selling and shooting the bull with other collectors is a dream come true but the flip side can be a financial nightmare! Lots of obstacles involved but if you have the heart and the capital to start I would wish you nothing but the best!
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 Posted 08/05/2006  12:27 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add adobero1 to your friends list
I was once at a Long Beach show and passed by a table where a very studious looking young man was sitting. He looked a little forlorn to me and I think I said something like, this must be a very interesting, fun job, to be a coin dealer? He responded by saying, you know, it's about as easy to be successful in this as it is to one day just up and decide to become a professional hockey player.

I would say at first, besides studying and gaining as much numismatic knowledge as possible, maybe try taking a table at some small shows with the goal of just having some fun. I've done this a few times and found it to be lots of fun. This way, you get a chance to bid on coins that people bring by and to become known locally. Lots of interesting people come by and it's a great learning experience. Be sure to have someone else at your table so that you have time to walk the bourse floor and look at other dealer's stuff and make acquaintances. Some people in my area have ads for buying coins in the yellow pages or in the local shopper type newspaper. When meeting someone for a sale/purchase, try to do it in a public place like your bank. A dealer in my area always does this for security, and because he has all his better coins in the bank safe deposit box.

So, I would say at first, focus on the enjoyment to be had by dealing on a small scale, then, if successful, branch out later. ebay sales, bigger shows...

Almost forgot to add, don't quit your day job yet!
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 Posted 08/20/2006  10:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add simple_man to your friends list
Thanks a million to everyone. All your advice and information is greatly appreciated.
To put everyone at ease...Im not going to jump into this head first, without alot of research and preparation. (Thats one reason Ive come here for some insight).
I have located some dealers within an hours drive, but have yet to visit them.
Has anyone used the auction sites to sell coins? Ive been researching that as a possible way to test the waters.
I know, as with any business, alot of though and preparation, as well as desire and commitment is needed to make it a success. In all honesty...I am confident that I can be a success, in due time. As many of you stated...It takes alot of time, and oh how I know that.:) Without being able to invest 24/7 into getting started, its kind of slow going right now.
Thanks again to everyone.
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 Posted 08/20/2006  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add texasmick to your friends list
First, I would suggest taking an ethics course. The world doesn't need another dishonest dealer.

Second, I would suggest that you will need to work your a** off. Because if you're going to be honest, it's going to be hard to earn a living.

Third, if you haven't already, go to a live auction. I've been to a few and they're fun. It's where dealers get a lot of their inventory. Good collect coins don't usually find you.....
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 Posted 08/21/2006  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add morganman to your friends list
Adding to what Crystalk64 said, do not be like the guy who loved donuts so much he opened a donut shop, and ate himself out of business.

Hard to be a dealer AND a collector......


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 Posted 08/23/2006  01:45 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list
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