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These things just about had to be struck out of collar the second time, don't you think? Is there anything odd about the diameter, or reeding?
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These things just about had to be struck out of collar the second time, don't you think? I can't imagine it not being. No other way to get the offset. The pics of the NGC coin are inconclusive; they're precisely the same pixel count horizontally and vertically, obviously either croppped, forced, or both. |
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What is this 'pixel' count to which you refer Dave? Is it something to do with photo imaging? You are leaving me in the dust with all of that technical jargon.
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I downloaded the pics of the NGC coin to analyze them, hoping that they'd be larger one direction than the other and therefore indicative of an out-of-round coin. They are very closely cropped to the actual dimension of the coin, and both are precisely 550x550 pixels. That sort of accuracy is difficult to do by hand.
As intently as I concentrate on my own photography, and given that my images are well over 2000 pixels in diameter, it's very, very darn difficult for me to create an image that will downsize to an exact 550x550 while being precisely even at the edge of the coin. Even if I get a "perfect" crop, sometimes I've slightly missed perfect parallelism between coin and camera, and the coin is 10 pixels larger one way than the other.
I feel that the NGC images were forced to that dimension for publication purposes, and therefore not accurate about the true dimensions of the coin.
I honestly don't know if anyone has ever taken a micrometer to either a "railroad-rim" or double-struck Morgan.
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Thanks very much for trying Dave, I imagine that the only way to really check for lack of symmetry would be with coin in hand. I would almost be scared to try it though.....if symmetry was discovered (with nice reeding), that could really get the head to smokin'.
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I just discovered a VAM 3AJ was wondering as too it's value and rarity? I can find nothing on either of these two questions... Forums help appreciated, and by the way, it was right here at this post that I learned what I had! Thanks guys! Eeeeesh! Weeks of searching until I found this post!! Local collectors were unable to help and you'd have to be blind to miss the die crack! |
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Quote:I just discovered a VAM 3AJ was wondering as too it's value and rarity? Welcome to Coin Community! 3AJ is not a value-added VAM, even if it's a very interesting one. There just isn't a large-enough collector base of VAMmers to create enough demand. Yet. In the same vein, too few people are actually seeking or attributing 3AJ to have a clear idea of actual rarity yet. The thing you don't hear often enough around here is that VAMming is very much a work in progress, and we're only part of the way down a very long road indeed. We've identified 4000 varieties, and I suspect there are at least 1000 more to be found, probably more. Then, and only then, can we begin to get a feel for how rare each actually are. A very interesting coin, though. Lots of die cracks, and it's clashed, which is uncommon with 1921's. You don't by some chance have pictures, do you?  |
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Waiting for batteries to charge on my camera. Sorry, the whole event caught me by surprise! Don't know how to post pictures here, or even if I'm allowed yet? If you could point me to a how too link, I'd appreciate it!
Talked to a collector here on the E.Coast, he said it's an R6 on the scale!
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Here's a tutorial for using Photobucket to post images on the forum: https://goccf.com/t/53146The rarity rating is an educated guess on Leroy Van Allen's part, assigned at the time he designates the VAM. Of the thousands of known VAMs, we only know maybe a few hundred well enough to get a feel for their actual rarity. |
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I did the best I could after spending hrs...   |
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Thanks for all of the help here guys, hope these pictures help!
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Talked to a collector here on the E.Coast, he said it's an R6 on the scale! That is correct but what he left out is it has a I level of 2. So its a rarity level of 6 but the Interest level is 2 which is what SuperDave is saying, its interesting but not enough interest in this VAM to make it worth more money no matter how rare it is |
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As noted by Dave and Bryan,,the I and are values are really misleading, it takes some time to really understand just what is or what are the sought after coins.....The I value...
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Nothing like dreaming of steak and snapping back to the reality of a cold can of cat food :(
That was the first error I ever found, that I knew I had something right off of the bat tho! Gotta start somewhere! Thanks for the help once again!
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 Its still not a common coin... so take heart...  even if there is not much public demand its still very cool  ..one day who knows...? but its still fun to find unusual coins! some times they do pan out..  |
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