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1869/69 Fake Off Ebay

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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:55 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
If you are using stock photos, you are just shady IMO.
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 Posted 11/16/2010  5:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bryan1234 to your friends list
I can agree to a certain extent on that but if your selling tons of coins by weight (silver) I doubt you want to take 100's of pictures but I stay away from those for the most part as I like to know what I'm getting.
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 Posted 11/16/2010  6:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Using stock photos for a pile of generic face value silver bullion is one thing, using a stock photo for a very rare and valuable die variety is another matter entirely. Most would call that fraud...
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 Posted 11/16/2010  8:11 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list
Obviously the coin is most likely a fake but I doubt the seller has bad intentions, IMO he is just an uninformed person who doesn't know anything about coins.
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 Posted 11/16/2010  8:21 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list

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 Posted 11/16/2010  8:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Maineman750 to your friends list
He also has actual photos of the coin, but they aren't the best close ups.
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but I doubt the seller has bad intentions, IMO he is just an uninformed person who doesn't know anything about coins.


i don't think this is the case. He knows enough to realize it's fake or most likely fake. I also find it extremely unlikely he wasn't able to get a good picture or scan of the coin and that's the reason why he couldn't first post them. Come on, he has enough transactions to realize how to take a picture and add it to ebay. I think he's was just trying to cover himself when the buyer realizes he bought a fake coin for a fair amount of money.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  3:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add upstate to your friends list
No Returns accepted of course, no picture of the actual coin,yeah right.
Looks too nice to be real, oh thats a good one

can you say shady deal!
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 Posted 11/17/2010  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list
If you notice, he has now posted a weight of the coin and it's no where near the right weight. I guess maybe he is ignorant of the authenticity or just covering himself.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  8:39 pm  Show Profile   Check robbudo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add robbudo to your friends list
And just $50 for the counterfeit coin so far.
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 Posted 11/17/2010  8:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wheatguy to your friends list

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Come on, he has enough transactions to realize how to take a picture and add it to ebay.


True, but he never said he doesn't know how to add a picture. He said he couldn't get a good close-up of the coin, which is the problem many collectors have, even on here. Obviously the guy isn't as straight up as he could be, although I don't find anything wrong with his auction. He stated


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IM ONLY selling this because this doesn't look real to me. I am not sure if I'm allowed to sell this on ebay so if I'm not let me know and ill take it off. I looked up fake coins on ebay and found "copy" on all the coins and this coin doesn't have "copy". but it looks way to nice to be real.


which doesn't seem overly shady or dishonest to me. I think it might be a good idea for you to either email and educate the seller or report the auction to ebay instead of blasting him publicly here.


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He's only gotten one negative in the past 12 months, and that was for bad communication and slow shipping, completely unrelated to scamming and selling counterfeits as genuine. Also, that might of been similar to an auction I'd do if I found a strange collectible like a stamp or a baseball card before I knew about forums and coins. He's basically stating "judge my description and auction and pay what you want" which I don't find overly dishonest.

If anything, I fault the buyers for not doing their research and using common sense before bidding.
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 Posted 11/20/2010  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list
Regardless of his business ethics, your right in that people are dumb. Did you see the ending bid? $455 for what is obviously a fake coin. I don't know if it's just that they are uneducated, or just don't read the details.
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 Posted 11/23/2010  2:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
auction cancelled, nailed 'em for the stock photos


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Dear ebay Member,

Thank you for writing ebay to report this potentially violating listing
to us.

I have thoroughly investigated your report, and have confirmed that the
item was in violation of the ebay Selling Coins policy. As such, I have
removed the listing from the ebay site.

Thanks again for your report.

Sincerely,

Akira
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 Posted 11/23/2010  3:47 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add HDRIDER to your friends list
The link to that coin has been removed. I didn't get a look at it, but I have seen some coins on ebay that one should shy away from. But I bought some nice coins off ebay and for the most part the coin sellers are pretty honest. There are always some dumb a$$'s associated with just about anything that is being sold.
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