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Moderator
 United States
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I would call that one a Good, since there is no evidence of LIBERTY at all, but the date is well defined. It is just my opinion. By the way, I am reading the grading information from the Red Book. I have no idea how a TPG would grade them, but I could probably look up some slabs and get a better idea. Since you bought the coin and have photos, I am going to move this topic to the Grading sub-forum. I am interested in some opinions that I know are better than mine!
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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It might make VG10 but I agree with jbuck, too much wear to honestly call it F12. It looks to have an old, light cleaning also but that is often considered "market acceptable". It was a good deal for $40 any way you look at it.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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If I look at it really closely with 20X loup I can see all letters in "liberty" but barely
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Moderator
 United States
189727 Posts |
I believe, and I could be wrong, that it has to be visible from the naked eye.
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Valued Member
 Canada
367 Posts |
sorry, I know I seem to being trying to push the grade as high as I can, but I might just be making my self see things, if it's a VG-8 it's a VG-8. You guys are the experts.
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Moderator
 United States
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I am no expert and still say it is just my opinion.  You do have us at a disadvantage since you have the coin in hand.
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
10982 Posts |
Quote: You guys are the experts.
Far from it brother, far from it. As far as "LIBERTY" goes, it is a commonly used diagnostic but not etched in stone. Some pieces are weakly struck in this area and could even grade VF without a full Liberty. The reverse of your coin looks VG to me. Maybe VG10. The obverse has overall wear more consistent with VG than with fine.
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Valued Member
 Canada
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Quote: Far from it brother, far from it. I disagree Thanks for all your help guys 
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Rest in Peace
United States
5375 Posts |
Its a weak Fine or high VG in my book, LIBERTY is traditionally a diagnostic for Seated Liberty coins to an extent, but because of a huge number of strike issues across a wide variety of dates, it cannot be the only factor. Sometimes you have LIBERTY very weak on an XF or AU coin and people go grading it F or VF... As for the ebay auction, I'd say thats a strong G-6
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Valued Member
 Canada
367 Posts |
Thanks shadow! So in this case lets say it's an AU-55 
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Valued Member
 Canada
367 Posts |
What if the rest of the coin is in G4 condition, but the liberty is almost entirely visible?
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Moderator
 United States
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Quote: So in this case lets say it's an AU-55 Optimism, for the win!  And thank you for commenting, bherring1964 and ShadowCreator.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Like Bherring says, there is some flexibility in how strong LIBERTY needs to be in order to meet a TPG grading standard. This 1877-CC half has an incomplete LIBERTY yet PCGS assigned a grade of VF-25. Based on this example I think your 1875-CC might have a shot at F-12 from PCGS, assuming they don't find problems like improper cleaning or damage. However, VG-10 seems most likely IMO.  
Edited by Jaobler 12/30/2010 2:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I'm going to call it VG-10 also. I agree that there is just to much wear for F-12
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Moderator
 United States
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I also agree with VG10.
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