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1875-CC Seated 50 Cent -- Photos Added, Please Grade!

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 Posted 12/29/2010  5:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I would call that one a Good, since there is no evidence of LIBERTY at all, but the date is well defined.

It is just my opinion. By the way, I am reading the grading information from the Red Book. I have no idea how a TPG would grade them, but I could probably look up some slabs and get a better idea.

Since you bought the coin and have photos, I am going to move this topic to the Grading sub-forum. I am interested in some opinions that I know are better than mine!
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 Posted 12/29/2010  5:13 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list
It might make VG10 but I agree with jbuck, too much wear to honestly call it F12. It looks to have an old, light cleaning also but that is often considered "market acceptable". It was a good deal for $40 any way you look at it.
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 Posted 12/29/2010  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
If I look at it really closely with 20X loup I can see all letters in "liberty" but barely
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 Posted 12/29/2010  5:27 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I believe, and I could be wrong, that it has to be visible from the naked eye.
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 Posted 12/29/2010  5:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
sorry, I know I seem to being trying to push the grade as high as I can, but I might just be making my self see things, if it's a VG-8 it's a VG-8. You guys are the experts.
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 Posted 12/29/2010  5:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list
I am no expert and still say it is just my opinion.

You do have us at a disadvantage since you have the coin in hand.
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 Posted 12/29/2010  6:16 pm  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list

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Far from it brother, far from it.

As far as "LIBERTY" goes, it is a commonly used diagnostic but not etched in stone. Some pieces are weakly struck in this area and could even grade VF without a full Liberty.

The reverse of your coin looks VG to me. Maybe VG10. The obverse has overall wear more consistent with VG than with fine.
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 Posted 12/29/2010  6:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list

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Far from it brother, far from it.

I disagree

Thanks for all your help guys
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 Posted 12/30/2010  12:09 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coinguybrian to your friends list
Its a weak Fine or high VG in my book, LIBERTY is traditionally a diagnostic for Seated Liberty coins to an extent, but because of a huge number of strike issues across a wide variety of dates, it cannot be the only factor. Sometimes you have LIBERTY very weak on an XF or AU coin and people go grading it F or VF...

As for the ebay auction, I'd say thats a strong G-6
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 Posted 12/30/2010  09:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
Thanks shadow! So in this case lets say it's an AU-55
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 Posted 12/30/2010  11:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add cazzuey to your friends list
What if the rest of the coin is in G4 condition, but the liberty is almost entirely visible?
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 Posted 12/30/2010  11:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jbuck to your friends list

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So in this case lets say it's an AU-55
Optimism, for the win!

And thank you for commenting, bherring1964 and ShadowCreator.
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 Posted 12/30/2010  2:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Jaobler to your friends list
Like Bherring says, there is some flexibility in how strong LIBERTY needs to be in order to meet a TPG grading standard. This 1877-CC half has an incomplete LIBERTY yet PCGS assigned a grade of VF-25. Based on this example I think your 1875-CC might have a shot at F-12 from PCGS, assuming they don't find problems like improper cleaning or damage. However, VG-10 seems most likely IMO.

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 Posted 12/31/2010  03:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add busthalf to your friends list
I'm going to call it VG-10 also. I agree that there is just to much wear for F-12
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 Posted 12/31/2010  03:15 am  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
I also agree with VG10.
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