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Rest in Peace
United States
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You make a good point. Collectors tend to figure that it's FREE to go to shows, because they're not counting the 50¢ a mile it costs to drive, or the time they're spending.
From an investment standpoint, tho, you're often better off buying mail order.
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New Member
United States
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How can you guarantee the quality of gold and other metals via mail order?
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Valued Member
United States
487 Posts |
Quote: How can you guarantee the quality of gold and other metals via mail order? May I suggest require photos from the person selling the item and than do your research from varouis sources on the internet. If it is bullion coins look to places like Wikipedia, Numismaster.com by Krause Publication and so on. Internet is great for sources, but go with a trusted site.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: How can you guarantee the quality of gold and other metals via mail order? As with virtually everything else in life, we cannot guarantee this. The best that we can do is to get the odds of success as far in our favor as possible. This can be done by doing careful and thorough on-line research of the various dealers who sell on the web. The larger dealers have a lot invested in their reputations and do not want to lose them. They know that in the Internet age, a few unhappy customers will SCREAM their heads off, that many potential customers will see those complaints, and will hesitate to buy from them. The big dealers like: APMEX, Provident Metals, and Silvertowne all have good reputations. You can buy from them with an excellent chance of getting exactly what you ordered and at a reasonable price. One cannot be so certain of buying things on ebay, IMHO. If a dealer there has a lot of feedback and a very high satisfaction rating those are good indications that you will be successful in dealing with them. I'm not saying that it is not possible to buy successfully from an ebay dealer. Many have done so and are quite satisfied with what they bought. There is more risk, however. There are a number of gold and silver items that are being faked these days and ebay is an ideal place to sell them. You can do a Google search for "fake gold" or "fake silver" to find a lot of info on this. This will give you some idea of particular coins or bars that have the greatest chance of being fakes, so they can be avoided. Buying gold or silver on Craig's List is also a risky venture. It can be done successfully or not so successfully. It's pretty much all a matter of odds. Most people who sell on CL will want to meet in a public place, such as a bank or a coffee shop. They will want a cash transaction. Both of these are reasonable requests, although walking around with a lot of cash in your pockets entails some risk all by itself. I have bought successfully from APMEX and can recommend them. Their deals are reasonable, their customer service excellent, their product quality is very good, and their PM variety and quantity quite good.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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EdB, I always enjoy reading your posts. Great advice, every time. And Herman, if you live around the Bremerton area in Washington state I can point you in some great directions. Otherwise I would also buy here on this site (I've had nothing but great experiences) or from a large dealer such as APMEX. And if you are into Silver Eagles you are going to pay a good sized premium. When large bullion dealers are asking their customers for Silver Eagles you know the coins are popular.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
3540 Posts |
Just about an ATB from gainesvillecoins.com - they had the cheapest prices with shipping out of provident or APMEX.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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How can you guarantee the quality of gold and other metals via mail order? Most mail order dealers are the same people you would deal with at a shop or show. If anything, they'd be more competitive, due to more competition. One area dealer claims to be top buyer, and he'll pay the highest price at a show, even if he turns around and resells it to a bigger buyer at cost. When he's back at the shop, he only meets local competition. One time his monday shop price was a dime a dollar less, even tho silver had gone up 15¢! I won't even get into things like offering $20 for a boxful of stuff we paid $160 for.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: They will want a cash transaction. Both of these are reasonable requests, although walking around with a lot of cash in your pockets entails some risk all by itself. I had a woman wanted to know if we had $5000 worth of silver, which was just $200 face at 25 times, and would we take a check? Yes, cash only. Her excuse, after I told her she could get cash at the bank about half a block down the street: I don't want to be carrying that much money around. Even 100 fifties wouldn't be noticeable in a purse. $200 face silver weighs around 14#. Sorry I can't help you, ma'am, I don't like carrying that big a rubber check around.
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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you can get bullion at your local store, at coin shows, at several large dealers like APMEX, gainesville, ebay, etc. I really enjoy getting bullion from other members on this board....helping another collector and very little chance of being scammed.
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New Member
United States
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I am not looking to collect coins. I am looking at getting gold bullion coins of about $10,000 to be able to use it in place of US currency if it collapses. So any advice for that or is all gold bullion coins considered collectable?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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Quote: Sorry I can't help you, ma'am, I don't like carrying that big a rubber check around. I agree completely, Fredd. Taking a check for PMs is something that can be worked out between a dealer and a regular customer AFTER having done several successful deals and only if BOTH of them agree to such terms. This is one of the benefits from working with a local dealer and getting to know each other. Fly-by-night one-time customers need not apply.  As for myself, I have no interest whatever in cheating anyone and even less interest in getting into it with the local police over a bad check. I'm one of those old-fashioned guys whose word is his bond. Make a fair deal, pay a fair price, look the other guy in the eye, and shake hands on it. With the right folks involved, that's better than ANY paper contract between strangers. Yeah, I know that there are a lot of folks out there who do not think or act this way. The way we act, though, is what makes us who we are and I have no desire to be less than I can be. If they do, then shame on them.
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Rest in Peace
United States
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Quote: So any advice for that or is all gold bullion coins considered collectable? Anything someone collects is collectable. A more accurate way to put it is "most gold coins are bullion".
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Pillar of the Community
United States
931 Posts |
ebay is the fastest. Some large bullion dealers are the slowest. If I was buying 7 or 8 one ounce bullion coins I would go with someone like APMEX or Goldline simply because they know what they're doing and have a lot to lose if they screw up. I also believe the larger dealers have developed a fool-proof delivery system that seldom goes wrong and always includes notification that the order has shipped and a tracking number with signature verification of delivery. I sure do love opening the box revealing those beautiful one ounce gold coins.
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New Member
United States
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If you're looking for a reputable dealer, either Gainesville Coins or Provident Metals offers a great selection at competitive rates. The more popular coin, the higher premium you're going to pay. If you're looking to buy for strictly investment purposes, consider bars, Gold Maples or Kruggerands. American Gold/Silver Eagles and a few others are in such high demand these days, they're fetching pretty high premiums (if you can get your hands on them!).
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Pillar of the Community
United States
4008 Posts |
Quote: I sure do love opening the box revealing those beautiful one ounce gold coins. Yeah, I bet!  I haven't had that experience... yet... but have had the thrill of opening nice tubes of ASEs, Kennedy 1/2 dollar proofs, and some Roosevelt dimes... all good stuff. The sight of gold in the box would be pretty amazing, though. Would love to have a 40-coin tube of 1/2 oz. AGEs someday. 
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