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 Posted 10/30/2013  9:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harry213 to your friends list
Hhmmm Not quite sure if either of these fit the "USB Microscope" criteria or if they even fall into that category. I mean if that were the case then we could take a Cannon SLR digital camera and do the same thing..

Let's see now, it's not a "microscope", it's not a "camera",(at least thats not its primary function anyway), it does not necessarily have to hook up to a PC via "USB" cord to capture images.

It IS a smart phone, and I already own one of them.. Just like I already own a conventional digital camera..... Don't get me wrong now, I do think they are both cool ways to utilize your IPhone. Thats if you Already own an Iphone. But I'm not sure if everyone is going to go spend a few hundred bucks to upgrade to the latest Iphone for the purpose of using it as a "microscope" camera..

Any other thoughts on this one?
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 Posted 10/30/2013  9:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
@Harry
Another area where tech had blended numerous separate areas into one.

[quote]But I'm not sure if everyone is going to go spend a few hundred bucks to upgrade to the latest Iphone for the purpose of using it as a "microscope" camera.[quote]
That;s the beauty of the iPhone microscope build - the iPhone 4s is already 2 issues behind (i thinkO) in the iPhone family, so it should not be hard to pick one up for cheap - I might do this and not use it as a phone.
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 Posted 10/31/2013  02:53 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Hi,

The following coin shots of LIBERTY on a 1953 LHC illustrate the usefulness of the previously-discussed adjustable snake arm USB device (anchored to the currently-hidden camera tripod stand) which is capable of handling any USB camera at any angle(within a standard x, y, or z plane of motion) from 1 degree to 359 degrees.


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 Posted 10/31/2013  02:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
The rationale behind utilizing this method for orientating this 1953 LHC to various photographic angles is to allow the following explanations to effectively coincide with the corresponding and suspected DDO markings on the word, 'LIBERTY'.

In this exposé all black arrows indicate real and easily-measurable PUPs. White arrows indicate perceived reflections caused by the angle of the incident lighting source with respect to the surface of the 1953 LHC coin:

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 Posted 10/31/2013  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list



photo A. For this first picture the USB camera took a shot of the coin laying on a flat surface resulting in all of the suspected DDO PUPs being virtually undetectable except for the faintly-showing top left doubling portion of the letter ‘Y' of 'LIBERTY'.

The subsequent photos B., C., D., and E. employ the features of an adjustable clamp capable of anchoring the coin with an alligator clip (w/o scratching it) while rotating the coin within each axis of all three x, y, and z planar orientations.

photo B. This particular photo below taken at a different x-y-z angular location has five areas of interest proceeding from left to right:

1. The letter ‘B' of 'LIBERTY' displays an unknown phenomenon that appears to have created a vertically-orientated and continual rounded depression from top to bottom: possibly PMD.

2. The next set of black arrows within photo B. clearly shows what appears to be doubling on the right lower leg of the letter ‘R' of 'LIBERTY'.

3. The next letter, ‘T' of 'LIBERTY', displays:

i. apparent doubling in the upper vertical portion of this letter marked by the black arrows and

ii. right-sided glare (marked by white arrows) that can often be incorrectly misinterpreted as doubling since this glare disappears when rotating the coin 180 degrees...

4. The final letter ‘Y' of 'LIBERTY' also on photo B. shows similar right-sided glare (also marked by white arrows) that is likewise often misinterpreted as doubling since this glare also disappears when rotating the coin 180 degrees...


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 Posted 10/31/2013  03:02 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
photo C. This next artificially-darkened photo, C., above assists to point out the doubling on the top left portion of the last letter, ‘Y', of LIBERTY.

photo D. This next-to-last photo, D., not only shows the verdigris that the initial photos lacked but also the:

1. doubling in the lower right leg of the ‘R' of 'LIBERTY' and

2. doubling in the top right section of the ‘Y' of 'LIBERTY'

photo E. Finally, this last photo, E., contains the clearest picture of the distorted ‘LI' of 'LIBERTY' which is comparable to the same but lighter-colored ‘LI' in the previously-discussed photo B.

I did not take the time to focus in on only the ‘I' of 'LIBERTY' but it appears that two ‘I's are essentially printed on top of each other in the following manner:

1. The bottom ‘I' is thinner with respect to its height above the coin's base surface while

2. The thicker ‘I' (also with respect to its height above the coin's surface) is rotated approximately two to three degrees clockwise from the vertical-orientated and thinner ‘I' below.
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 Posted 10/31/2013  03:03 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
As a sidebar note it may be of interest to note that the letter ‘L' within 'LIBERTY' appears blurred because its height above the coin's surface is incrementally greater since it resides on a significantly-sloped rim-sided curvature that many other LHCs lack.

In summary, besides pointing out an alternate method for USB photographing varying depths built upon a coin's primary lowest surface I would also like to read all opinions from the readers insofar as whether or not this coin is a DDO or possibly some other type of variety.

Thanks,

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 Posted 10/31/2013  09:07 am  Show Profile   Check 52Raymo's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add 52Raymo to your friends list
I would say get rid of the tripod and get the Lighthouse USB stand that I posted a pic of.
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 Posted 10/31/2013  1:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Harry213 to your friends list



To each his own... But... I really don't want to create another Rube Goldberg machine. Or spend time and money gathering building materials, customizing and re-purposing other things into a complex device to perform a simple task.

Especially when that device already exists.

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 Posted 10/31/2013  3:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Earle42 to your friends list
Some people naturally get more fun out of building things and some see it as a bother. Just different personalities.

The reason I like the iPhone build is b/c it is so inexpensive and gives great close ups - which is what, at present, is important to me.

I have a stereo dissecting microscope I use to check for DDOs etc. I can hold my camera up to the objective to get a close up of a MM, but if I just build/use the iPhone microscope I will be able to check for DDOs etc. and take a pic of it if I want.

Even if I do not have the parts lying around to build one (and I believe I do), the money I save can go towards another coin
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 Posted 11/19/2013  07:04 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Hi,

All of previous photos I took earlier in this USB Microscope Photographing Coins thread involved the implementation of 'only' spiral CFL bulbs covered with regular white copy paper to further soften the light rays etc.

Here are side-by-side comparison shots of the obverse side of this coin using my USB camera vs my Epson WorkForce 610 scanner:

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The scanner photos complement the diffused USB shots in that the scanner assists in better accentuating the minor dings and scratches which are important in classifying a coin as a MS-63 instead of a MS-62 for example.

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 Posted 11/19/2013  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
The following side-by-side photos compare the reverse side of the Norse medal again utilizing the diffused USB shots with CFL bulbs vs the technology employed by the Epson scanner:

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 Posted 11/19/2013  07:05 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
In my continual pursuit of trying to use this USB camera in every way possible I finally had to break down and take my very first shots engaging the already-integrated LED lights within my USB camera.

I estimate that adequate lumens emanating from the covered LEDs are still capable of sneaking around the open orifice to shine upon this coin where the USB camera collects the image of its object etc.

For the science folks out there all types of lighting sources typically use lumens as a measuring unit to identify their quantity of emitted 'visible' light. Any further discussion into this subject matter is beyond the scope of this narrative.

Earlier in this thread I remember one of the viewers suggested covering two or three of these USB LED lights with tape to reduce the glare from proof-like surfaces. In my particular endeavor covering only this number of LEDs did not 'cut the mustard'.

Because I am photographing a rather shiny patina of a 1925 Norse Commemorative Medal suitable for grading evaluation covering ALL eight of theses LEDs with dark black duct tape produced the most acceptable very closeup photos.

I additionally made a destructive modification to my USB camera. It seemed that the clear plastic guard covering the end of my particular USB camera where the LEDs are prevented me from focusing down close enough to create those super tight macro shots.

Therefore, I simply pried off this clear and tapered one inch long protective cone to be able to almost touch any object by the USB camera tip when filming...

The end result of this modification demanded the use of only the low beam option in terms of the intensity of the LED lights on this USB camera. Apparently, sufficient illumination occurred using the low beam even with ALL of the LEDs covered with black sticky duct tape.

Remember that the following closeup photos in this thread entry below did NOT use any CFL bulbs whatsoever.

Per the attached shots of the Viking's head I cut down about 80% of the glare from this MS-type coin and about the same percentage of that undesirable blue tint that is so characteristic of LED technology.

Please note the attached photos and how the gold color changed sides when I rotated the coin 180 degrees.

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I have requested that this coin be graded by all interested CCF members and staff.

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 Posted 11/19/2013  07:11 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mdpmedia to your friends list
Any interested viewers wanting keep up with the consensus grade of this coin should check out:

https://goccf.com/t/163024

Thanks,
mdpmedia
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