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What Do You Call What Happend To This Cent ?

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 Posted 05/29/2011  1:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list
I'm thinking that if it was on the planchet before being struck, wouldn't you see it in the raised areas and not in the fields? If you look at the right side of the Memorial between the two columns, you'll notice that the lines do not match up like they would if it was on the planchet. Die polish marks? That straight? Could be I suppose. Are the lines raised or embedded?
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 Posted 05/29/2011  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wild Bill to your friends list
the lines do not appear to be raised.....

or is it an illusion ?


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05/29/2011 1:57 pm
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 Posted 05/29/2011  2:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DVCollector to your friends list
with Kenringold. The die's fields would flatten planchet defects, and it would be easily seen in recessed portions of the die, ie the legends and memorial. I'm guessing these marks are incuse in the fields of the die--and raised on the coin. Just a guess.
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 Posted 05/29/2011  2:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add drewmiller86 to your friends list
Nice find I am looking forward to a final verdict on this one.
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 Posted 05/29/2011  2:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list
Now the lines are matching! This makes it harder to believe it is from polishing to me. If the lines are not raised in the cent then they would be in the die, right? So if it was from polishing, it looks like the guy used the edge of the tool and should be fired!?
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 Posted 05/29/2011  2:31 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biokemist6 to your friends list
Feeder finger damage. They are thin steel plates that feed the planchets to the dies for striking. Occasionally, one will scrape across a die, leaving a series of parallel die gouges.

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 Posted 05/29/2011  2:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coop to your friends list
Feeder finger die scrapes. They happen on the outside part of the die. Which is the fields. That makes it appear like they run through devices, but it is just damage on the out side edge of the die.
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They are not just die polishing as they all flow at the same angle. Die polishing is irregular. Can be minor or really strong as the OP coin shows.

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 Posted 05/29/2011  2:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wild Bill to your friends list
Thanks biokemist6 and coop, you have given me just what I was hoping to get and I'm grateful.
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 Posted 05/29/2011  2:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Adam_E to your friends list
ah, okay, thanks coop, I got them mixed up, die polish marks are irregular and Feeder Finger Damage flows at the same angle
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 Posted 05/29/2011  3:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add oldcoach to your friends list
I totally agree with the feeder finger diagnosis plus this is the worse case I have seen.
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 Posted 05/29/2011  5:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add closelook to your friends list


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Heres a few pics of a coin that was struck on a deeply scratched planchet.
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 Posted 05/30/2011  01:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list
I sure like learning something new.
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 Posted 05/30/2011  02:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Numiseye to your friends list
The angle of the gouges are consistent with Feeder Finger Damage. Most of these are caught before leaving the mint because the abnormality is so strikingly apparent.
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 Posted 05/30/2011  02:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add KenRingold to your friends list
So I guess in this case then it would be the value is in the eye of the beholder.
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 Posted 05/30/2011  02:58 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mitchhailey to your friends list
You learn something new everyday.

Thanks for the post! This is why I love this hobby.
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