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Bernanke To Investors: You're On Your Own!

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 Posted 08/28/2011  1:03 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GoThunder to your friends list
Getting back to Fred's link, I found some ratings on the safest banks: http://www.gfmag.com/tools/best-ban...xzz1WLMl29Fy

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 Posted 08/28/2011  1:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wei Fun to your friends list

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Surprisingly, Bernanke seemed to blame Congress, saying that it is now up to our elected representatives to do what's necessary to get the economy growing again.


Why surprisingly? This is something that Dallas Fed president Richard Fisher has been talking about for some time now. The notion that the Fed can magically create prosperity through monetary policy, despite the president and congress doing their utmost to slow the economy is ridiculous. Just look at Japan. They've had an easy-money policy for 20 years (while pursuing one misguided "stimulus" after the next). Have they gotten prosperity? No, they merely created a lucrative "carry trade" where people could borrow cheaply domestically and invest overseas. We're now doing the same.

If Washington would learn (that is, if we voters would compel them to), we could get both growth and currency stability that would cause the stock market to rise, and the gold price to fall.

As a final comment, since when is it the Fed's job to guarantee stock market investors profits? That's how you get bubbles and their subsequent crashes.
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 Posted 08/28/2011  1:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list

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As a final comment, since when is it the Fed's job to guarantee stock market investors profits? That's how you get bubbles and their subsequent crashes.

Good points. It is NOT the Fed's job to guarantee anyone's profits. IMHO, the Fed has been the creator of or a large contributor to all of the bubbles in recent history... Internet stocks, housing, banking, etc. The Fed needs to "man up" one of these days and admit that their policies have been misguided and have caused much more trouble than they have solved. That's extremely unlikely but it would be an excellent 1st step in healing our economy.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  11:48 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list

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Now, with unemployment still sky-high and with home values still plunging, global investors hoped against hope that the Fed chief would use this morning's speech to pull a rabbit out of his hat.


I know a guy that got a low variable rate loan to lower his monthly payments and restablish his bad credit but when he went to refi that loan do to the rate/payments going up there was less value in the home than before to be able to refi so he taped into his assets checking/savings accounts stocks bonds retirement funds etc for home improvements to get the homes value back up so he wouldnt have to come in with closing costs that he didnt have at the time for the new refi but before he started the home improvements pool,deck new roof copper piping new double pain windows granite kitchen counter tops and a room addition etc he took the current balance and divided it by the present conservative value and he said as long as it wasnt over 85% then he would qualify for the new refi and it worked he was verry happy about the decision that he had made He avoided 10 years bad credit witch is the worst derogatory one could have,It's worse than a bankruptcy at 7 years bad credit

If homes are under water/upsidedown on there mtg then get some home improvements done to bring back up the value

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 Posted 08/29/2011  11:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Most home improvements raise the value by less then the $$$ you spent to do the improvement unless you are very skilled at carpentry and can do your own electrical and wiring. You would be better off using the cash to pay down the existing loan.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  11:59 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list
Great point Nod2003
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 Posted 08/29/2011  12:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list
I think it could be argued that QE1 and 2 caused inflation. They certainly devalued the dollar. And it seems that instead of taking the money and reinvesting in America the Banks and other institutions either added to their Reserves; invested overseas; or invested in Commodities. The last having the net effect of raising commodity prices. And since when have higher prices for food and energy been a good thing for this economy? No for ONCE I have to agree with the Fed. I also see where they have gone away from the Partial Employment model, which led to this Recession and are now backing the Pre-1980 Full Employment model. Yes, it did create wealth...for the wealthy. Corporate earnings are through the roof. Salaries for Upper Management have increased 10 fold. But at the price of destroying the dollar, the American Middle class, and the American Economy. And Corporate America simply does not care. As long as their profits are up ( and they are) then they could care less about anyone else.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  1:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list
He had a huge two story home so he purchased two energy efficient central air units one for when he was upstairs and one for when he was down stairs so that he didnt have to heat or cool the whole house he said that it already paid for itself !
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 Posted 08/29/2011  1:44 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mkfarm to your friends list
I'm never understanding this hate Corporate America thing. When people say that I want to run as far away form them as I can get. I figure they don't have a clue how to succeed and I don't want it to rub off on me. Look the simple fact is Corporate America has been pretty good to me. Now I had to work to get a part of the pie, and it was darn hard work. Farm prices go and and down faster the PM's do.

But without Corporate America I don't pay my bills. I could care less how much they make, I just make sure I get what I want and they make more then well they negotiate better than me.

My house is old built in 1846. It has had some additions and updates since then. Last fall we had to do a few things so I had to have it appraised again. I was concerned with all the was going on last year. This was the first time they wanted an appraisal in 9 years too.

I fell off the chair when it came back $125,000 more than the last time. No big addition or improvement in those 9 years either.

There are a lot of angry and mad people lately. The blame everyone but I was always taught to take care of yourself and figure things out when times where bad. We have done ok and the PM's have done really great. I remember those that told me it would never build wealth. Those small investments of dollars over time really paid off.

My point is stop blaming everyone and figure it out for yourself. If a person has more money congratulate them and if you want the same then figure out how to do it.

I compete with large cooperate farms, we had to make changes and figure it out.

I look at the current economy as a opportunity. I'm just not waiting for someone else to figure out what that opportunity is for me.

My long term strategy in PMs have paid off big time. It gave me the flexibility to make some moves which I did. It sure beats crying about Corporate America. I made the sacrifices when I was young, figured things out and to be honest I don't even notice a change in the economy.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  2:07 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
I can see some people's point about corporate America though when the corporations in question are sending all the jobs overseas. The company where I am currently employed for example has tons of work and is more profitable then they have ever been, but they refuse to hire workers in the US, instead expanding the number of workers in China.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  2:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add mmerlinn to your friends list

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And Corporate America simply does not care. As long as their profits are up ( and they are) then they could care less about anyone else.


Without corporate America most of us would not have a job.

And CA CANNOT have increased profits WITHOUT the people that generate those profits - the people that work for CA.

So, whether you like it or not, CA MUST care about their workers and the workers MUST care about CA. ONE CANNOT LIVE WITHOUT THE OTHER in our society.

And CA is also the engine that funds most of the financial funds that make it possible for retirees to enjoy their golden years. So, bashing CA is like shooting yourself in the foot.


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but they refuse to hire workers in the US,


They refuse because they will become NON-COMPETITIVE if they don't. And non-competitive corporations either go out of business or go bankrupt. If your company started hiring only in America, within months you would not have a job.

MOST of the blame for pushing corporations to hire overseas belongs to the U.S. Government through high taxes, onerous regulations, manipulated currency, and even kow-towing to pipsqueak nations.
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08/29/2011 2:30 pm
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 Posted 08/29/2011  2:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add nod2003 to your friends list
Really? Because when it comes to manipulating currency, China is the gold medalist.
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 Posted 08/29/2011  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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Good points. It is NOT the Fed's job to guarantee anyone's profits.

Just for their owners.
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 Posted 08/30/2011  12:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add jmkendall to your friends list
I will just point out that in one breath you say "CA CANNOT have increased profits WITHOUT the people that generate those profits - the people that work for CA"

Then the next breath you defend CA not hiring Americans;"They refuse because they will become NON-COMPETITIVE if they don't. "

You can't have it both ways. We are talking about America and American Workers. Not China, Korea, or Mexico.

I have no illusions about Corporate America. I sold my soul to Corporate America 31 years ago. I am truly, truly sorry for all the work I did busting Unions and finding enough paper to fire or force out Senior Non-exempt employees. All so we could make more money and hence increase our salaries. After 12 years all I got out of it was so much stress my health started to suffer. I got out and I never looked back. I still have a couple of friends in that Corporation. They tell me that they are proud of the fact that the Average wage of the Average Hourly worker is roughly 10 percent less now than it was in 1980. They crow about how they have taken management position and given them to Hourly Employees, at a third the pay.

So tell me; when all your workers are in Mexico and China, who will buy your products? It is all about disposable income.
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 Posted 08/30/2011  10:39 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Hollywood to your friends list

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It is all about disposable income.

yep credit and income both take away from your ltv.dti is your total minimum monthly payments on your credit report if under $15 on any of them you count them as $15 then divide that total by your monthly gross income witch you can find on your tax returns under schedule c for adjusted gross income add in any verified rental agreement income to your adjusted gross income and divide that by 12 if over 31% dti then its a bad deal now a days
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