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 Posted 09/02/2011  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add xshift to your friends list

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do not recommend dipping/polishing/scrubbing/wiping of any kind to other members that may not know how badly this can devalue a coin.


This cannot be overstated. People new to coins do not understand the risk they take when cleaning a coin - and anyone posting here is seen as knowledgeable. It's fine, great, and wonderful to express opinions and what you do, but a warning of the potential consequences should be included.
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 Posted 09/02/2011  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
Wow xshift. what coin is that in your avatar?
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 Posted 09/02/2011  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list
1)I am not dipping coins, I experimented and it doesn't work. I know what it does. It ruins coins. I am saying BULLION, no numismatic value. Only melt value. In general, dirty, discolored, toned, bullion will sell at a discount to spot. That has been my experience.

2)I said I might be so inclined to try to remove that dirty look from themand I have never said "dipping/polishing/scrubbing/wiping" about coins. YOU SAID THAT. You are accusing me of something I didn't type. I've read a lot of threads on THIS forum and others of what are acceptable ways to remove dirt and such. There is a member here that sells a product to "conserve" coins. Which he said is not easy to do. He explains how to "properly" prepare the coin for his product.

3) "PS. The Sarcastic remark of "O, never clean coins" is rather moot and a bit ridiculous, given your stand on the subject."
My stand is not to do it(ie. clean coins), I have seen the "never clean coins" by members of the "community". So if I say it is "Sarcastic" to you, but it is fine for anyone else? I do not appreciate the "bit ridiculous part".

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I understand that you prefer your coins to have that dull shiny look. That's fine. They are your coins. As long as you understand it removes any kind of premium over spot that the coin may hold, then by all means, have fun.

You don't understand, that is the real problem. I don't have any coins, that I know of, that have been dipped.
I like toning that has eye appeal. I like iridescent toning, rainbow toning, and some other color types. I really like original mint luster, mint state, new unc and Proof commemorative coins, and silver Proof sets.

4) Keep your "community". You have the freedom of not having to read my threads, post, or reply to them.

5) You made your point, I have made mine. Let's keep it civil and stay out of each others way.

6)If you do want to be civil. You can play the keyboard tough guy, you can click on send an email. But, let us not continue this on the op's thread.

I think I have clarified any misunderstandings.

I will reiterate to never clean coins.



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I am not a fan of brown or black toning. But, apparently, even else likes it or is scared to try to remove it. Those two are common dates, 22 and 23, I might be so inclined to try to remove that dirty look from them.. The 24 looks like a pitting on it, may have been dipped or blasted. Also, could just be the picture. O, never clean coins.


It's not an issue of being scared. I don't think anyone is afraid of dipping a coin. We know what happens. It removes layers of metal, permanently damaging the coin.

I understand that you prefer your coins to have that dull shiny look. That's fine. They are your coins. As long as you understand it removes any kind of premium over spot that the coin may hold, then by all means, have fun.

But please please please... do not recommend dipping/polishing/scrubbing/wiping of any kind to other members that may not know how badly this can devalue a coin. If they dip a coin flat and then try to sell it, only to find out its not worth much, they will blame that on the community here, not on you.

Please think of the community.

PS. The Sarcastic remark of "O, never clean coins" is rather moot and a bit ridiculous, given your stand on the subject.

Mods, If I'm out of line here, please correct me as necessary.
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 Posted 09/02/2011  12:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
GTallen, I'm sorry if I upset you.

Besides, I'm a tough guy in real life.
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 Posted 09/02/2011  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list

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GTallen, I'm sorry if I upset you.

Besides, I'm a tough guy in real life


I'm a tough guy in real life also. You want to go down that road today

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 Posted 09/03/2011  12:00 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
<United States Marine.

You?
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 Posted 09/05/2011  9:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list
I retired 1 year ago. 24 Years US Army. I cooked grits, changed light bulbs, and made scrambled eggs. I serve as a DAC now.
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 Posted 09/05/2011  11:22 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
Ah cool. I owe some army cooks. A few took care of me in Sinjar in Iraq on my second tour. It was such a pain to get Soda out there.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  12:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list
I didn't cook. I did that stuff to insurgent and taliban in the T box with the M24 and a Barrett.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  12:34 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
I thought you just said you were a cook?

lol. I'm not sure what you're trying to say.

So what did you retire as? And what unit? I got attached to an army unit during my first tour. They were out of Germany I think.
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 Posted 09/06/2011  12:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list
1SG/E-8. I cooked peoples brains, turned off their light bulb, and made scrambled eggs with velocity. The T box is on a persons face, eyes and nose. I served in many different units.

In OIF, I did some operations with some shooters and spotters from the 1st MEF. They were a lot of fun. We sat on a target for 3 days before we got some action.
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 Posted 09/07/2011  4:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list
Ah cool. I always loved seeing our boot Marines get tripped up on what to call a SFC.

"Yes, Firs... uh... Sergeant first Cl.... uh..." *confused look*.

so funny.
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 Posted 09/08/2011  11:32 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list
I just told my USMC shooters to say Sergeant unless it shined, then say Sir/Ma'am. If something was in the middle of all the stripes just say Sergeant Major. If they are a lower rank they will just tell you. Most the time when I worked with Marines, we spent out of the wire. We never had to worry about ranks. We tried to stay in houses and self support.
It was nicknames on internal and callsigns on the net. The Marine Scout/Sniper is highly trained and a joy to work with.
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 Posted 09/08/2011  1:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add biggfredd to your friends list

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Wow xshift. what coin is that in your avatar?



Looks a lot like the Maria Theresa Thaler. 1780, .75 ounces silver content, prolly known in more of the world than any other coin.
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 Posted 09/11/2011  04:21 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list
........ What are the odds, lol... I'd like to thank both of you for your service
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