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 Posted 08/28/2011  4:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Never clean coins....just sayin...
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 Posted 08/29/2011  9:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PlumCrazy814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Uneven tarnish as others have stated.

We use an old set of silverware. We don't use the salad forks and table spoons as frequently as we do the forks, teaspoons and knives. They get some really odd "toning" in various shades including purple.

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 Posted 08/29/2011  11:28 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add amassey08873 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice Buy! Saving in NY always feels better too. I'd like to see pics of the Peace dollars, If you get a chance. Just to add again, only dip your coin for a few seconds. If left to long or dipped to many times your final result will be very unpleasant. I always do a final rinse in distilled water, Have fun! Let us see the results.
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 Posted 08/30/2011  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Peace Dollars? Sure, here you go:

What's-Wrong-With-This-ASE? What's-Wrong-With-This-ASE?

The 1922 and 1923 look a lot better in hand than they do in the macro photographs. The 1924 looks spectacular either way, but I don't know if that's original finish or whether it has been dipped or something.

As I said, I paid $42 each for these, but that was just so I could get all the ASEs also at $42 each.
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 Posted 08/30/2011  09:26 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add PlumCrazy814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Nice

Looks like the '24 might have had some "pocket polish" but it still is appealing - esp at that price
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08/30/2011 09:28 am
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The fingerprints obviously keep these from being in mint condition,

Fingerprints do NOT remove a coin from Mint State. WEAR removes a coin from Mint State.
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 Posted 09/01/2011  6:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add barryg to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
All right, got my bottle of dip in today. The liquid is blue, but smells exactly like this stuff called Tarn-X I used to use back in the 80s. Works about the same as Tarn-X, too. It took care of most, but not all of the toning. I wouldn't try this on a normal coin, but for bullion silver...
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 Posted 09/01/2011  10:58 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I have heard it is the same stuff or at least very, very close. My drain stoppers are very clean and shine from rinsing bullion coins. O, never clean coins.
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I am not a fan of brown or black toning. But, apparently, even else likes it or is scared to try to remove it. Those two are common dates, 22 and 23, I might be so inclined to try to remove that dirty look from them.. The 24 looks like a pitting on it, may have been dipped or blasted. Also, could just be the picture. O, never clean coins.
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09/01/2011 11:07 pm
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I am not a fan of brown or black toning. But, apparently, even else likes it or is scared to try to remove it. Those two are common dates, 22 and 23, I might be so inclined to try to remove that dirty look from them.. The 24 looks like a pitting on it, may have been dipped or blasted. Also, could just be the picture. O, never clean coins.


It's not an issue of being scared. I don't think anyone is afraid of dipping a coin. We know what happens. It removes layers of metal, permanently damaging the coin.

I understand that you prefer your coins to have that dull shiny look. That's fine. They are your coins. As long as you understand it removes any kind of premium over spot that the coin may hold, then by all means, have fun.

But please please please... do not recommend dipping/polishing/scrubbing/wiping of any kind to other members that may not know how badly this can devalue a coin. If they dip a coin flat and then try to sell it, only to find out its not worth much, they will blame that on the community here, not on you.

Please think of the community.

PS. The Sarcastic remark of "O, never clean coins" is rather moot and a bit ridiculous, given your stand on the subject.

Mods, If I'm out of line here, please correct me as necessary.
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09/01/2011 11:20 pm
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do not recommend dipping/polishing/scrubbing/wiping of any kind to other members that may not know how badly this can devalue a coin.


This cannot be overstated. People new to coins do not understand the risk they take when cleaning a coin - and anyone posting here is seen as knowledgeable. It's fine, great, and wonderful to express opinions and what you do, but a warning of the potential consequences should be included.
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 Posted 09/02/2011  12:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Namachieli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Wow xshift. what coin is that in your avatar?
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 Posted 09/02/2011  05:36 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add GTALLEN to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
1)I am not dipping coins, I experimented and it doesn't work. I know what it does. It ruins coins. I am saying BULLION, no numismatic value. Only melt value. In general, dirty, discolored, toned, bullion will sell at a discount to spot. That has been my experience.

2)I said I might be so inclined to try to remove that dirty look from themand I have never said "dipping/polishing/scrubbing/wiping" about coins. YOU SAID THAT. You are accusing me of something I didn't type. I've read a lot of threads on THIS forum and others of what are acceptable ways to remove dirt and such. There is a member here that sells a product to "conserve" coins. Which he said is not easy to do. He explains how to "properly" prepare the coin for his product.

3) "PS. The Sarcastic remark of "O, never clean coins" is rather moot and a bit ridiculous, given your stand on the subject."
My stand is not to do it(ie. clean coins), I have seen the "never clean coins" by members of the "community". So if I say it is "Sarcastic" to you, but it is fine for anyone else? I do not appreciate the "bit ridiculous part".

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I understand that you prefer your coins to have that dull shiny look. That's fine. They are your coins. As long as you understand it removes any kind of premium over spot that the coin may hold, then by all means, have fun.

You don't understand, that is the real problem. I don't have any coins, that I know of, that have been dipped.
I like toning that has eye appeal. I like iridescent toning, rainbow toning, and some other color types. I really like original mint luster, mint state, new unc and Proof commemorative coins, and silver Proof sets.

4) Keep your "community". You have the freedom of not having to read my threads, post, or reply to them.

5) You made your point, I have made mine. Let's keep it civil and stay out of each others way.

6)If you do want to be civil. You can play the keyboard tough guy, you can click on send an email. But, let us not continue this on the op's thread.

I think I have clarified any misunderstandings.

I will reiterate to never clean coins.



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I am not a fan of brown or black toning. But, apparently, even else likes it or is scared to try to remove it. Those two are common dates, 22 and 23, I might be so inclined to try to remove that dirty look from them.. The 24 looks like a pitting on it, may have been dipped or blasted. Also, could just be the picture. O, never clean coins.


It's not an issue of being scared. I don't think anyone is afraid of dipping a coin. We know what happens. It removes layers of metal, permanently damaging the coin.

I understand that you prefer your coins to have that dull shiny look. That's fine. They are your coins. As long as you understand it removes any kind of premium over spot that the coin may hold, then by all means, have fun.

But please please please... do not recommend dipping/polishing/scrubbing/wiping of any kind to other members that may not know how badly this can devalue a coin. If they dip a coin flat and then try to sell it, only to find out its not worth much, they will blame that on the community here, not on you.

Please think of the community.

PS. The Sarcastic remark of "O, never clean coins" is rather moot and a bit ridiculous, given your stand on the subject.

Mods, If I'm out of line here, please correct me as necessary.
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GTallen, I'm sorry if I upset you.

Besides, I'm a tough guy in real life.
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GTallen, I'm sorry if I upset you.

Besides, I'm a tough guy in real life


I'm a tough guy in real life also. You want to go down that road today

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