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How Can This Washington Quarter Grade MS-66?

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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:33 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scotty11 to your friends list

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Overpriced, yes. Damaged, most definitely not...




In my eyes, that's a beautiful coin.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:37 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add coincollector123 to your friends list
It is a beautiful coin but is way to pricy for me.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  12:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list
I personally do not like toned coins. I do not see them as damaged, however, the way I see it, the greater the deviation a coin is in appearance and detail from when it left the mint, the worse it is.

I don't agree with the grade on this coin. It look MS-65 (no star). Even if I thought toning as a good thing, this coin doesn't get the star from me. 66 is also tough for a 47S washington, that coin isn't that great.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  07:42 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list
I actually like the look of this toning.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  09:50 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DavidZerbato to your friends list
I think it does warrant a star designation. That only goes to the visual appeal of the coin, not the details grade. The toning is very pleasant and appears to be natural. Now, whether it can be considered damaged is a different story, not getting into AT vs. NT, I dont' see how anybody can consider this damage in the numismatic sense. The toning is just a natural chemical reaction between the silver and environmental compounds. Presuming it is not AT, if you were to call this coin damaged, you would have to call 99% of all circulation coin damaged as well. Every none full RD Lincoln, IHC, or any other copper coin would then have to be considered damage as the brown color is just the result of natural chemical reactions. Most silver coins have some sort of toning as well. So, while a person may not like the look of toned coins, which is completely a personal preference, I don't see how you can call this coin damaged unless it was obviously tampered with to achieve that color and toning.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  10:01 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
I've actually bought from that seller. I think they put up high prices with "or best offer" so that buyers have to come in with the first offer. I saw one Mercury dime I wanted, but it was overpriced for the grade by a factor of three. I sent in an offer at about fair-market value (considering the above-average eye-appeal), and they took it.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add IowaHawkeye to your friends list
The seller seems to have a ton of rainbow toned coins..

Is there a way to induce rainbow toning?
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 Posted 09/30/2011  10:54 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CaptainFwiffo to your friends list
Yes, it's possible and coin doctors definitely do it, although doing it while the coin is in the slab is probably more difficult. In this case, the cert lookup shows a picture, which shows the coin was toned at the time it was slabbed (of course, how else would it earn the star), and NGC seems to think it's natural toning.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  1:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ricardocody to your friends list
When I saw the topic I though why not if I have some graded as proof 70 lol ! Is hard to understand sometimes as to be ms 65 or higher the coin must have 100% mint luster on it ?!.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  2:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list
The toning on this coin does appear natural to me. Whenever a seller seams to have a bunch of rainbow looking coins, they were usually doctored.

On another note, lets say that this coin deserves to be called MS-66*. Doesn't that make it worth something like $100. Somebody paid $775 for that thing?
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 Posted 09/30/2011  2:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add VisigothKing to your friends list
It's a very nice coin. I don't think it's 66 though; more like 65 in my book. But about toning, IMO there is beautiful toning, and there is ugly toning. This certainly isn't ugly toning.
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 Posted 09/30/2011  11:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add penny man to your friends list
WOW! that toning is beautiful!


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Somebody paid $775 for that thing?

toning that nice commands a premium, though usually not that much.
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 Posted 10/01/2011  12:12 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add D0ubl3Eagle to your friends list
Wow! That is a beautifully toned coin!
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 Posted 10/01/2011  08:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add TheForce to your friends list
I must be the oddball, I find it hiddeous.
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 Posted 10/01/2011  10:10 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add stevex6 to your friends list
I admit that I don't like "all" toning, but wow, that coin is absolutely gorgeous! ... and although a nice blast-white looking coin is certainly the goal for a "purest", who won't accept any change from the coin's original minted appearance, I think that this coin is kinda like a beautiful autumn maple, that has turned from its original green leaves to a gorgeous blend of autmun colours (pretty artsy, eh?) ... anyway ...

=> so to "me", this toning makes this particular coin more unique and more valuable than if it was still in its original blast-white condition ......... I'm just sayin'
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