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1909-S VDB Cent On Craigslist

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 Posted 10/08/2011  7:00 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list
What do you uys think of the grade?
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 Posted 10/08/2011  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list
Might be real and then again?
Your talking about one of the most counterfeited coins in the USA. I'd do as already noted and tell the guy you'ld gladly buy it if you two could meet in a coin shop. It would be well worth about $10 to have the coin shop look it over.
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 Posted 10/08/2011  9:05 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add lincolncentguy to your friends list
I dont think I would buy any coins offered for sale off of craigslist...and I agree with just carl...have the guys at the coin shop check it out.
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 Posted 10/08/2011  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add hesgut to your friends list
This coin has clearly been cleaned...and there might be some pitting. Identifying fakes for the 09-S VDB isn't that tough. Take some material with you if you need it and at least a 10x loupe and have a close look at the 'S' and the VDB.

I've personally sold a $100 coin on craigslist, so some are genuine. I'd low ball this coin though...issues and uncertainty.
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 Posted 10/08/2011  9:21 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yankee1227 to your friends list
What do you think would be a fair offer?
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 Posted 10/08/2011  10:43 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add okiepb to your friends list
Yes, I agree w/ Carl too. Not sure of what I'd grade it, looks like a VF but a lot of pitting / corrosion. If you're taking Carl's advice and meeting at a coin shop, ask the dealer for his thoughts.

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 Posted 10/08/2011  10:47 pm  Show Profile   Check vermontensium's eBay Listings Check vermontensium's eCrater Listings Bookmark this reply Add vermontensium to your friends list
If I can offer some advice, avoid craiglist for any coins.
Flower pots, car parts...not coins. Too many scammers.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  09:52 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add just carl to your friends list

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If I can offer some advice, avoid craiglist for any coins.
Flower pots, car parts...not coins. Too many scammers.

I never thought of that. Yes I'm looking for a new and larger flower pot myself.
Other suggestions are to take another chance and find someone on this forum that knows a lot about fakes and is in your area. Have them PM you as to if they too could meet with you and that seller.
Contact http://www.coppercoins.com and ask there to look over the coin from that listing. If anyone on Earth knows that coin, it's him.
Be carefull of that coin.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  4:50 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ceaton to your friends list
My god, stay away from this coin...save yourself the trouble and buy one slabbed by PCGS or NGC....not worth the risk at all.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  6:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinstar to your friends list
big time agree with ceaton--get a certified one.

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 Posted 10/09/2011  11:45 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add BadThad to your friends list
Coin is a fake! I've seen this coin or ones VERY similar before. Even with the crappy pictures I can tell.
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 Posted 10/09/2011  11:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add FOTD to your friends list
I absolutely agree that is indeed a fake. Artificial toning and you can see the flux around the S and on the off chance that it is legit I would still pass because of condition/cleaned.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  3:55 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dmott88 to your friends list
Looks fake. Tell him to get it certified and then you will give him an 100 bucks plus what grey sheet bid is. I promise you he won't comply.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  5:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dave700x to your friends list
Looks fake. The color is just like the Chinese knock-offs made to look circulated.
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 Posted 10/10/2011  11:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Saruma to your friends list
Check out the PCGS page on this subject.

http://www.pcgs.com/Articles/Detail/6062

I think it may be real. The VDB definitely looks correct. I can see the strongly slanted B in the image. There are 4 correct locations for the mint mark and this matches the one that sits the furthest below the 1909. There is not enough resolution for me to determine if the mint mark itself looks real, but it certainly isn't the more open fake one seen on the PCGS page.

The coloration of the coin looks weird, but that could be the photograph. Again, the look to the rest of the coin is something you really need to see in hand. It kind looks like someone made a half hearted attempt to clean it, decided the gunk/corrosion was too thick and stopped half way. For that reason alone I probably wouldn't buy it even if it is real. If I'm shelling out that kind of money I'd rather wait and save up a few hundred more dollars for one without the problems. If we were talking about $300 instead of $900 then I might be more willing to take a chance on it. If you do have a good local coin shop, he's willing to authenticate it, and the owner is fine with you buying a coin from someone is his own shop (it is kind of a conflict of interest) then do it.
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