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Flaw Penny? Or Freakish Damage?

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i went and done some bartering this afternoon, picked up about 100 pennies and 50 half pennies. a few niceish ones, lots of repeat dates in the 40's, no 46 :( . but did find this interesting error. the S and part of the T can be seen.
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Looks like PMD to me.
It looks like the meat of the metal in the s and t have been peeled back by a sharp impact at an earlier date,
The scratch line from the t to the end of the anomaly on the coin indicates this.
Sorry mate but in my opinion this is PMD
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not 100% either way on this one yet, the line down from the top bar of the t seems to also be raised, I started to think maybe a pocket of air inside the planchet blew out during the strike? the area under the damage does not appear to be smooth or have a cut/sliced appearance. I will see if I can get better close ups tomorrow
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Could have been a crook planchet to start with.
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1 is it a peel lamination error when the piece is lifting up or tearing off or
2. A Cud lump of extra metal
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this is what I have come up with, out of about 200 pics
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i think these 2 show the lumps and bumps the best. what can be seen of the S is raised, and either side is lower.
the bottom pic shows the raised bit on the outside of the T, and a lump at the left end of the cross of the T.
the best I have is, there was an air pocket inside the planchet which released immediately after the die lifted.
if its PMD I cannot come up with an explanation to explain the unevenness in the hole.
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It looks like that part of the coin has been "skinned", weird.
could be a lamination error, thats the only way I can explain it.
If it was PMD then there wouldn't be any detail under the peeled bit but you can see the s and t clearly
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Lamination - A form of planchet flaw caused by imperfections in the metal, whereby a thin strip of the metal separates itself from the coin.

The lighter colour part is probably from more recent playing around with, but still nice interesting find :) good pics
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