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 Posted 01/08/2013  1:06 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Silverhawk74 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yup7676 are you big yup Dave or son perhaps from storage wars lol? Long shot but had to ask.....
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 Posted 01/09/2013  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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I guess there are a lot of buyers out there.

There sure are. My local coin and pawn shops are all very low in inventory. Finding anything good is very hit and miss with them and prices are high thanks to the limited availability of many types of coins, bars, and rounds. I told the owner at my favorite shop that he was forcing me to buy on-line and he just laughed and shrugged, saying "If people aren't selling any, I don't have any to resell". He says that he has 5-6 times more buyers wanting coins than he has sellers.

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 Posted 01/12/2013  09:06 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I'm on of those sellers. I bought silver proof sets in Aug 2011 @ $42 per oz and some 90% in Sept 2011 @ $31 / oz. I bought thinking that spike in silver prices from QE1 would be repeated with future QE events. I sold the 90% in Sept-2012 after QE3 came and went and still lost money even though silver was at $34 / oz due to dealer premiums. I decided to hold on to my extra silver proof sets until after the election hoping for a fear spike when Obama was reelected. That didn't happen so I sold at $33 / oz Dec-2012. All-in-all I lost about $200 on $1000 of silver. Considering this was fun money I'm not too disappointed and on the positive side it got me into coin collecting.

On an interesting note, I bought silver proof sets hoping that they would hold value better than normal 90%. That wasn't the case. When I was selling, no one was willing to give a price bump for the numismatic factor except ebay. Of course, with ebay you lose about 15% to fees which more than cancelled any bump in selling price. I ended up selling them to Gainesville Coins as 90% silver. When I first talked to Gainesville, they declined to buy them, because they weren't interested in proof sets. I called back and asked about selling them as 90% silver and they agreed as long as I broke open the mint packaging and sent them just the silver coins. It seemed like a waste to me but money is money. Gainesville coins paid 96% of spot and both transactions went very smoothly.
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 Posted 01/13/2013  3:49 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Ed_B to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

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And when it did bottom out at 2 to 4 per oz. it was stuck there for THIRTY FREAKIN PLUS YEARS, talk about going dormant....

Indeed so, Hawk, but for anyone who was building a stack in those days, it was THE acquisition phase of a lifetime! If only I had been into collecting silver back then! Imagine buying 1000 oz. of silver for $3000. lol

JSH... sorry to hear about your losses. You did manage them about as well as anyone could, so kudos for that.

Proof sets have never appealed to me. They always contain things I don't want and the price is always more than seems reasonable to me. I dunno... maybe I am just too cheap to get into them. What I DO like, though, are those rolls of proof Statehood Quarters that APMEX sells for less than the BU grade of Washington quarters. These are beautiful 90% US silver coins and I have 20 rolls of them in my stash.
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The Statehood Quarters are really nice except for Florida, someone had to have been high making them one with all the random stuff thrown on there
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JSH, too bad you didn't try to sell them here. I have seen them sell for about a 10% premium to spot. They don't last long either.

Almost every proof item sold by the mint can be purchased later at a big discount.
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Silverhawk- sorry no relation to Dave on Storage Wars.

BTW you heard he's suing the shows producer? hes alleging the whole show is set up and faked
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 Posted 01/14/2013  08:16 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add tpg22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
So only the viewers knew the show was a fake?

Platinum on a run over last couple days. It has almost caught gold. Looks like a good day to be in PM's. Shortages in 90% on up to bars and eagles for most products. Buyers are being told to expect delays. Most big online stores have very limited supply. Time for me to start a new thread "More buyers then sellers". There seems to have been a shift in the last few weeks.
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BTW you heard he's suing the shows producer? hes alleging the whole show is set up and faked

Gee... imagine that. Next he'll be telling us that the Tooth Fairy died.
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The shift may be temporary, with premiums on 90% hitting highs never seen before this may be the last hurrah for silver, investment demand has really grown the last couple of years, it's gonna peak eventually. I would say a big part of the stampede in investment demand is people buying because they are being told it will never be this cheap again.
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 Posted 01/17/2013  10:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add JSH to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
@ Ed_B: I agree that proof sets from the mint are not worth the huge premium. I didn't buy my sets from the mint, I purchased them on ebay with the price plus shipping just under the spot value of the silver coins. I still have the clad proof coins and mint packaging so I should get a little more of my money back when I decide how to sell them.

@ tpg22: I listed the 90% I sold in September here on the forum for spot with free shipping. I didn't get any interest at all at took the listing down after a week. When it came time to sell the proof sets I didn't even bother with the forum. Gainesville Coins had the best offer I found and they are very good to work with.
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I hear ya JSH, Its nice to try and sell here but you just dont see many takers. I'm trying to sell a 10oz engelhard and 20 maples. No interest yet.
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 Posted 01/18/2013  11:17 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kavern23 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Samsnate, Only see your maples for sale, where is the 10 ounce bar?
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10 oz is in the trade section.
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So many more buyers then sellers right now at least in my area. You can find .999 but not in any big quantities. I have had to fall back to buying junk 90% to keep adding at a reasonable price. I have been dealing with the same guy since he opened last year and probably buy 70% of his silver he has coming in but lately it has been very limited. So this last week I bought 90% at a good price but I really prefer .999. I think its obvious that people are hoarding again, now will that increase the price I hope so now. I would love to see a run to $40 and turn some of it into gold. I think my ultimate goal is to have all my silver turn to gold.
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