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 Posted 12/15/2013  7:28 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Prismatic Spray to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Can anyone here explain to me, why this coin:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Canada-ERRO...271347760362

..has such an insane selling price? It was sold to this seller, at this auction:

http://www.moorecoins.com/1-00-1969...el_i11304842

After doing a little digging on the internet, I discovered that this coin has quite a history! It is not unique though - here is a different one that TCNC tried to sell at the TLC auction in Hamilton in 2010...

http://www.icollector.com/MINT-ERRO...ous_i9421403

This coin on ebay is the one Chuck Moore brought to several coin shows (look at the mark on the R of DOLLAR), who tried to sell it in auctions over the next couple years:

October 2011 - http://www.icollector.com/1-00-1969...el_i11304842

June 2012 - http://www.icollector.com/DOLLAR-19...fi_i12928920

February 2013 - http://www.icollector.com/Nickel-Do...ie_i15441739

So how does a coin go from not selling for the reserve price at three auctions, to being worth $200K?


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12/15/2013 7:39 pm
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 Posted 12/15/2013  7:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Pokermandude to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The short answer is: it isn't worth even close to what the seller is asking for it.
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 Posted 12/15/2013  7:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
It's just the ebay version of...

"How much do you want for that?"

"Oh, just make me an offer!"

No big deal, happens all over ebay. The seller knows it's not worth that, he just wants offers so he can pick one.
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 Posted 12/15/2013  7:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Prismatic Spray to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I thought it was more like...

"Look what I have!!"

Or, it could be....

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 Posted 12/15/2013  7:53 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The auction record has been established for this piece.
Enough said.
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It's perfectly normal. ebay forces you to put in a BIN price even though you just want offers, so you just use a ridiculously high one.
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 Posted 12/15/2013  7:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add bobby131313 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
So how does a coin go from not selling for the reserve price at three auctions, to being worth $200K?


Worth has nothing to do with asking prices.
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 Posted 12/15/2013  9:19 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add yingyang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The seller hopes someone won the lottery and will buy the coin for 200 grand
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I have seen this type of tactic before. It's a form of advertising.
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 Posted 12/16/2013  12:36 am  Show Profile   Check SPP-Ottawa's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add SPP-Ottawa to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Most definitely not unique. At least 8 are known, and I know of two in collections that grade higher, right here in the Ottawa area. Here is mine, buried in an old thread, graded PCGS PL-66

https://goccf.com/t/127421

We (the old CCRS gang) used to think it was crazy back when Alan Hagar had two of them for sale in the $20,000 price range about six years ago.

As for the current owner/seller, I will decline comment.

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 Posted 12/16/2013  09:47 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add DBM to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
This seller needs an audience, he wore out his welcome on a number of forums including this one.It is indeed "look what I have", and it works.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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 Posted 12/16/2013  10:23 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
With that many known pieces on this coin, the last Moore auction price would be a pretty accurate value for this coin. Seen the Moore example a couple years ago at Torex but didn't meet minimum bid.
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 Posted 12/17/2013  6:23 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RUSH2112 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Shouldn't part of the rim be missing if it's punched on a canada half dollar blank?

The bottom icollector coin looks right, this one looks full.

Am I missing something here?
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 Posted 12/18/2013  7:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Although the price is ridiculous, the coin in question appears to be struck on a struck coin, not just on a 50 cent planchet. This would make this coin much more valuable as a double denomination, if in fact it's struck on a struck 50 cent denomination. It seems everyone is comparing it to a off metal and not as a double denomination. If you look close, you can see elements of the 50 cent design.
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 Posted 12/18/2013  8:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Smallcentguy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While it would be more unusual if it were struck on a 50 cent coin, it is only more valuable if there is a buyer. There is only a limited market for contrived Canadian errors like this, and I think the market has no buyers at prices anything close to this.

Personally I like this one way more......

http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=23244

This is also no doubt a contrived error and is likely going to sell for a whole lot less than the asking price the coin in this string is looking for.
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 Posted 12/18/2013  9:20 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Zimmy to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The coin is more valuable as a double denomination than just an off metal. That is a fact. My comment had nothing to do with whether there is a buyer or not.
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