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I have seen this type of tactic before. It's a form of advertising.
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Most definitely not unique. At least 8 are known, and I know of two in collections that grade higher, right here in the Ottawa area. Here is mine, buried in an old thread, graded PCGS PL-66 https://goccf.com/t/127421We (the old CCRS gang) used to think it was crazy back when Alan Hagar had two of them for sale in the $20,000 price range about six years ago. As for the current owner/seller, I will decline comment. /unplug toaster... "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
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12/16/2013 01:17 am
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Pillar of the Community
 Canada
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This seller needs an audience, he wore out his welcome on a number of forums including this one.It is indeed "look what I have", and it works.
"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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Canada
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With that many known pieces on this coin, the last Moore auction price would be a pretty accurate value for this coin. Seen the Moore example a couple years ago at Torex but didn't meet minimum bid.
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Canada
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Shouldn't part of the rim be missing if it's punched on a canada half dollar blank?
The bottom icollector coin looks right, this one looks full.
Am I missing something here?
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United States
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Although the price is ridiculous, the coin in question appears to be struck on a struck coin, not just on a 50 cent planchet. This would make this coin much more valuable as a double denomination, if in fact it's struck on a struck 50 cent denomination. It seems everyone is comparing it to a off metal and not as a double denomination. If you look close, you can see elements of the 50 cent design.
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Canada
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While it would be more unusual if it were struck on a 50 cent coin, it is only more valuable if there is a buyer. There is only a limited market for contrived Canadian errors like this, and I think the market has no buyers at prices anything close to this. Personally I like this one way more...... http://coins.ha.com/c/item.zx?saleN...&lotNo=23244This is also no doubt a contrived error and is likely going to sell for a whole lot less than the asking price the coin in this string is looking for. |
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United States
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The coin is more valuable as a double denomination than just an off metal. That is a fact. My comment had nothing to do with whether there is a buyer or not.
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Canada
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United States
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I already stated the price was "ridiculous". Why are you so hung up on tying my factual comment with what the guy was asking for the coin? When I see several posts that clearly did not recognize that it was a double denomination it would seem that bringing that up would be important for those following this thread.
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Canada
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If it was a true error it could matter. But when something was manufactured artificially as this was, I don't think that the fact is a double denomination matters. I suspect that all of the dollars-on silver-50 cents of this date are double denomination because they probably all resulted from a mint employee tossing a 50 cent coin into the works. What is likely more rare is a dollar-on-a-blank-silver planchet, because that would be an error that likely never happened..
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United States
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If your comments had anything to do with what I posted was relevant, then that would matter to me but unfortunately you have completely missed my point that I have repeatedly tried to make. Just maybe there was someone out there that appreciated my comment that it was a double denomination. That will be my last comment since I have already wasted my time since my 1st comment.
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Pillar of the Community
Canada
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Zimmy, Glad to hear that is your last post!
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Just maybe there was someone out there that appreciated my comment that it was a double denomination. I don't think so.... This is NOT a double denomination. Where on earth are you seeing elements of the 50-cent reverse, either from the coat of arms or the 1967 wolf? I have seen the coin in hand. In fact, is it double struck, in collar, with an ever so slight die rotation. Look at the legends on both sides of the coin, elements of the first struck are further out to the rim. Being double struck, the coin probably fully expanded to the collar. Of the handful of these I have seen, this is probably the ugliest one, and it explains why it took so long to sell. Make no mistake, this is a back door job. This was struck on a blank 50-cent silver planchet, probably from planchets used for the 1967 specimen sets. They are ALL proof-like strikes (all six to eight known). They all came from ONE person, who also smuggled out 1969 25-cents struck on silver planchets/coins and 1969 10-cents struck on silver planchets/coins at the same time. I know the dealer who bought them all from a former mint worker. "Discovery follows discovery, each both raising and answering questions, each ending a long search, and each providing the new instruments for a new search." -- J. Robert OppenheimerContent of this post is licensed under a Creative Commons Attribution-NonCommercial 3.0 Unported License. See: http://creativecommons.org/licenses...0/deed.en_USMy eBay store
Edited by SPP-Ottawa
12/19/2013 08:52 am
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United States
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I will respond to SPP's comment since it was very informative. I saw that there was an underlining 1st strike but couldn't tell from the picture due to limited design detail whether it was a dollar or half strike. I thought it was a half dollar strike. Let me stand corrected that it is a double struck versus a double denomination. Glad the readers know that its is more than just struck on a wrong planchet. Thanks SPP for setting us straight.
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