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1970 S Small Date High 7

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I just found in a face value bank roll what I believe to be a uncirculated 1970 S Small Date High 7.

I just started collected so please correct me if I am wrong.

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Need close ups of the date, but from here it looks like a large date but I could be wrong
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on close up picture, and looks like a large date
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Large date

1970-S-Small-Date-High-7 small date
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I went by this graphic another user on the board had made that shows the s is below 7 on small and s lines up with 7 on the large?



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Three things I look at

for small date: top of 7 is in line (more or less) with tops of 9 and 0, bottom of 7 is even with bottom of 0, inner loop of the 9 is thinner and points toward 0

for large date: top of 7 is below tops of 9 and 0, bottom of 7 is below bottom of 0, inner loop of 9 is thick and points toward bottom of 7
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Well I was just going to post this and say scroll down to coops images https://goccf.com/t/120561 but you seem to have it
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Just a friendly FYI--the mintmark position isn't diagnostic for LD or SD--there are many LD dies and several SD dies. I haven't counted them all, has anyone?
If you stare at a LD hard enough and in the right light or tilt, you can convince yourself it's a SD. I only say that from my own experience

Large and small dates can be distinguished from the shapes of the 9, 7, and 0 digits. I look at the "7" first--a LD has a longer top stroke, and the diagonal goes below the baseline on the "0". Yours is a LD.
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Thank you Fuzzy317, DVCollector and Rupester, I know, I understand it now.. which is the reason I joined this board. Thanks means a lot next time I will remember to judge by shape and stroke direction. I was misjudging based on mintmark position.
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Good luck finding a SD! Several CCF members have found them in circulation, but I haven't yet.
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Ocala. I went from yanking my hair out to having 3 of them one certified ms65 one 1970 mint set with small date which is where that image is from and one proof set I absolutely love this variety And unless someone beats me on ebay tommorow I am going to have #4 I searched so long I cannot get enough now
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Here is a sampling of 5 different dies that I've received pictures of so far. At one time I thought the small dates were from the same die, but they are not.
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Coop, have you researched the small date dies for proofs? I wonder how many of those exist
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SO far, no. I gave up after the 5 pictured above.
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