| Author |
 Replies: 49 / Views: 8,783 |
|
|
|
Valued Member
United States
256 Posts |
quote:
And THIRD - I know what a rare coin is, SIR! Rare coins are coins that there are not very many of. Period.
Pretty much rules out the speared Bison then!! All this hype over a simple die crack. The prices are outrageous on ebay! Just another example of smooth-talking salespeople taking advantage of a un-educated public. I agree with what the experts are saying that these coins will never hold their value. IMHO, buyers are thinking they are buying the next 3-legged Buffalo (as far as future value) and that just isn't going to happen with this coin. For the buyers sake I hope I'm wrong and they do increase, but only time will tell. |
|
Pillar Of The Community
3147 Posts |
First of all, the speared bison IS NOT a die crack! There is a world of difference between an accidental die gouge at the Mint and a die crack as a result of a die attempting to break away.
|
|
Member
United States
703 Posts |
quote:
Originally posted by Steve E.
[quote]
Pretty much rules out the speared Bison then!! All this hype over a simple die crack. The prices are outrageous on ebay! Just another example of smooth-talking salespeople taking advantage of a un-educated public.
I don't know what the fair price for the speared bison will be in the future...but as for smooth talking sales people on ebay (I don't sell speard bisons, wish I did) but these coins get BID up to those amounts. I f someome starts an auction for 9.99 and it gets bid up to 100 DOLLARS ... how is that smooth talking... its an auction? That seems to be the fair price right now...what will it be in the future....who knows. BTW The error on the famous "Speared Bison" is a die gouge and not a die crack. |
|
Pillar Of The Community
3147 Posts |
Personally I really don't want to see this get out of hand! There are some very good coin people here and to say the least opinions are very diversified. Some like errors, others don't, some like buffalos while others don't. Personally I don't collect errors intentionally but do have a few but I DO collect anything and everything with a buffalo so it was only natural that I went after the speared bison. Will it hold, time will tell and until that time we all can keep it absolutely down to a mild roar and continue to be the best forum on the net. Lots of friends here and I hate to take sides so I will just be neutral and officiate as needed! Lets let time settle this as I know we can not absolutely for certain know what tomorrow will bring! Group HUG!
|
|
Valued Member
United States
256 Posts |
quote:
First of all, the speared bison IS NOT a die crack!
Sorry for the mistake. I was in ERROR!  That still doesn't change my opinion on these types of errors. quote:
I f someome starts an auction for 9.99 and it gets bid up to 100 DOLLARS ... how is that smooth talking...
Not an attack on anyone in particular. I was referring to the efforts many ebay sellers go through (creative descriptions) to make their item(s) sound like an offer you just can't pass up. I have fell for it myself as well as many others I'm sure. Sort of reminds you of the home shopping coin shows and their talented salesmen. they make it a daily routine of getting people to part with their money first and then realize what they had done later. Yes, they do it with a lot of smooth-talk, the gift of gab, creative advertizing, whatever you want to call it. We all seem to agree on the TV coin shows, but it seems many people out there are watching and learning from them.  Edited by SE
07/31/2005 9:07 pm
|
|
Rest in Peace
United States
2884 Posts |
I was beginning to wonder if we have a full moon or what?  Lately it seems as if a lot of folks are is on edge. I hope everyone is feeling O.K. as illness or stress can cause misdirected anger. I'm for taking a deep breath, a step back and a group hug!  This is a hobby!!!! You folks are great and I love this forum and I get edgy myself when people seem to go beyond healthy arguing. Keep in mind, people look in on this site and don't know the relationships and may get scared away! I really do feel this is one of the best forums around and hope we can keep it that way. Thanks, Mike  |
|
Pillar Of The Community
3147 Posts |
No one can be more on edge than I am! My job was elimintated last Friday and I got a whole 3 days notice. Worked for the same company for 28 years (well same building, 3 different owners) in the same position for 21 of those years! I am now a statistic of down sizing and managing a budget. The last thing I am really worried about right now is who collects what or why. I come here to RELAX and enjoy the company of other collectors! Now, who's on edge?
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
Terry
Sorry to hear about the J O B,, Ive never been in your shoes in the same way !! But I do know the stress involved ,, Just not the exact senario.I just got to old and hurt to continue with my trade, body couldnt take it any more.
its taken 6 years to reach 1/4 of the income on a new JOB ,it sucks but we eat.
Rick
Edited by Metalman
08/01/2005 12:36 am
|
|
Rest in Peace
United States
2884 Posts |
Terry, sorry to hear about your situation.  My story is more like Metalmans, the will was there but the body went south. It has been a huge change for me and my family but we are adapting. I hope you have your health. Without it, not much else matters.....Mike |
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
2724 Posts |
For my part I am sorry. I sometimes forget just how pointless it is to argue with children and wannabe dealers. Seems as if everytime I decide to give away advice for free, it ends up costing me time and effort.
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
3147 Posts |
ND no need for an apology as WE ALL get carried away now and then. Its just a tough situation when, for all practical purposes, everyone is right and everyone is wrong and most of the time those are no win situations no matter who you are or how you handle it! And, we all know, these types of agreements and disagreements can last a lifetime. To see the same thing we would just have to bring up any recent President and watch the fire fly! Politics and religion, both which are supposed to be on the highest moral grounds, have brought more than one man/woman to blows and many, pushed hard enough are ready to kill! YUP, some things are better left unsaid! Do REALLY appreciate everything said concerning these posts, and quite honestly, I can see both sides of the issue and see NO end in this tug of war! In the end if I am happy about where I put my money thats all that matters! It takes everyone one of us to make demand and I am just glad we ALL don't collect the exact same things. Be to darned expensive then!
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
Well You guys might be sorry ? but I'm not!!You Guys might feel like you wasted your time and effort? but I dont !!!
I believe I learned something, and once all of the info from this thread and the other one is taken and sorted,and compartmentalised ,I believe that each and everyone who takes the time will benefit.
of course the debate will continue!! because some are stuck with an opinion that no amount of information will change, but not everyone is above learning.there are more people here than wanna be dealers and children!!!
So was it wasted time and Effort?
Rick
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
1203 Posts |
These last seceral posts have made me a little ashamed of myself, aa it just wasn't right for me to take my "ball" and go home.
So, I'll stick it out but be very selective in who and what topics I get involved in on making any further comments. When it comes down to it, you all were just too nice to part company with. I hope you take that as a compliment.
So like it or not, I'm back!
Edited by OldDan
08/01/2005 2:47 pm
|
|
Pillar of the Community
United States
7123 Posts |
Edited by Metalman
08/01/2005 2:56 pm
|
|
Pillar Of The Community
3147 Posts |
Old Dan you can't leave as you and your wit, humor and knowledge are much needed. There are just some topics, even though we are all expressing our most sincere views, that will never please everyone. WE are ALL different in every way, shape and form and as long as we can accept those differences we may be able to always "argue" politely! Quite frankly, if we were all perfect NONE of us would have a need to be hear. We would just set at home and count our countless millions for being that perfect! Darn, I got a long way to go!!!
|
| |
Replies: 49 / Views: 8,783 |
First Page
Previous Page
Posted 07/31/2005 7:55 pm
