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Is This Considered A World Coin Or A US Coin?

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I cherry picked a coin out of a dealers foriegn junk box from the Philippines from 1944. It was minted at the Philadelphia mint while the country was a commonwealth of the US.

Do people generally view these coins as being foriegn coins or part of the history of US coinage? I'm having difficulties figuring what part of my collection it belongs into the most, and was wanting some opinions.

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Personally I would call it a world coin. Just my opinion.
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Bertensgrad, this coin and many like this minted in the U.S are a good example of history. Considering the times they were minted and what political events was happening a neat coin.
A part of U.S/Philippines history.
Most are silver if not all.
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I believe the most comprehensive answer to your question is "Yes".

Some say it is a US coin. It was certainly issued by the US government, for use in a US controlled territory. Technically it is "American Empire" rather than America proper, but since it is the only one of the "American colonies" to issue its own coinage, its classification is... flexible. I believe the RedBook still puts them in the Back-Of-Book section along with Confederate States, Hawaii and other semi-foreign coins.

Others consider it "world". I certainly file it under "P" in my World Coins album, rather than under "U". The Krause world coin catalogues do the same. This way, the coins for Spanish Philippines, US Philippines and Independent Philippines are all listed together.
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I would say it is a World Coin as we don't use it in America.
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I'd call it a World Coin.
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I'd say definitely a world coin.
Many coins and paper money were produced in the US.
For example, South Korean hwan coins of 1959 and 1961, and 1953 1 through 1000 won notes were produced in the US but they are listed under S. Korea in every world coin/currency catalog you see.
Thus I would say the US-minted Philippines coinage are World coins.
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World with subclass minted in US.
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Since this coin was never a circulation coin in the Usa it would fall under worldcoins imo.
Would you eg consider a coin of German East Africa as a German coin?
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I'd consider them to be part of US coinage issued for circulation during the US administration.
Numista.com lists them under Philippines.
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According to Krause catalog this is a world coin. Catalog no. KM 180a.
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I wasn't lucky enough to get one old enough to be silver. I would considered colonial coins to count as both if minted either inside or directly by the colonial power.

Two American minted pesos would be directly tradable as legal tender for one US dollar. It makes it like a 2.5 cent piece. The key thing for me is it being marked on the back as being United States of American and being made by the US Mint.

Either way I'm happy I got it for 20 cents, haha.
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I would say it is a World Coin as we don't use it in America.




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Would you eg consider a coin of German East Africa as a German coin?


Some relevant comments here.

Refer to the reference books. That's what they're there for. They call it a coin from the Philippines NOT from the USA. Go with the flow.

It IS a World coin. No doubt in my mind.

P.S. As far as the 'Mint' goes, some Australian coins were minted in the USA and they're not American.

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