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Why Is There A Sheep On This NFLD Token?

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I bought a Rutherford token a wile ago and it comes in several variety depending on the type of sheep wool and stars on it. I found it odd that there was a sheep on it as I do not think of sheep when I think of Newfoundland.

Recently I came across a picture of a 1794 Nowrich Castle half penny that looks similar.

Since the dies used to make my token came from England maybe they designer used the same motif? Is "Sheep being hoisted" a common theme?

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It's the "Golden Fleece", I believe, as featured in the ancient Greek legend of Jason and the Argonauts: the Fleece was the goal of the quest, which could only be attained through persistence and hard work.
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Quote:

Recently I came across a picture of a 1794 Nowrich Castle half penny that looks similar.

Since the dies used to make my token came from England maybe they designer used the same motif?


I think the Rutherford tokens were minted in England. So, it was probably a matter of cost (design and dies in hand). The whole point was to deal with a shortage of coppers for change, and so the tokens needed to be obtained for < 1 penny each for it to be worthwhile for the merchant.

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 Posted 07/23/2015  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Wade to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
thats in really nice condition for that series,

is it no date, 1841 or 1846 ?

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That was a pic I grabbed from the internet but mine is in simmilar condition, maybe a wee bit better. It is a 1846, rosette, corss wool I belive (may be wrong on the wool).

I had it shipped from the United Kingdoms and only paid like $60, I was happy.

Sorry moderators about causing you trouble with my post. I thought it belonged here but thought maybe it was a Canadian "coin".

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I'm guessing that the sheep may have a Biblical connection. Note the words "Harbor Grace" on the one token. Many of the tokens from this era convey a religious or political theme. Just a thought ...

To me, the curiosity factor that these early tokens so often arouse is a large part of their appeal. Of course, being in choice condition like the OP's token surely helps!
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Harbour Grace is actually a town in NewFoundLand where the Rutherfords operated a store.

The Hanging Fleece design was used as early as 1643, and was also very prominent on english tokens in the late 1700s

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"Dipping" is not considered cleaning...
-from PCGS website
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