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Canada 2016 Uncirculated Set (#148390) Contains 2015 Loonie

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 Posted 02/14/2016  7:29 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I disagree a little with the first to market adage, in a regular auction with no returns like the 2005 p non mag penny that is an insane example even though an error like that is no where near those value, 25 cents struck on gold planchets barely fetch over 20,000. The first two sellers of the 2005 penny are surely counting their change first to market is rewarding.
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 Posted 02/14/2016  7:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
John, just curious. When the non-magnetic pennies that were supposed to be steel first appeared, how was it determined that they were a legitimate mint error caused by the wrong metal poured into a vat (Correct me if I'm wrong as to the cause.)

But what I'm suggesting is that their existence had to have been widely known prior to appearing on ebay otherwise nobody would pay that price.
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 Posted 02/14/2016  8:46 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
When TCNC placed the first one in their auction, they advertise as first one handled by the company really rare, at most, us error guys thought 2000 to 3000 at most, then before the auction we started to hear rumours of a large dealer with a massive amount, and more was began to show up. It's most likely a honest error where the bulk bin of planchets were not completely cleaned out or in the change over to p production. Just like today a 2006 version sold on ebay for over 3100.00 5 to 6 times trends, at least two people wanted it badly, sometimes buyers believe too much on the adds, rare one only, stuff like that, can't do that on ebay because of the return policy. I think these pennies were found in Oh Canada sets, they left the mint accordingly so they are legit for sure, but as errors goes this type has no wow or eye appeal unless you have a magnet or it's graded it looks like a normal penny.
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 Posted 02/14/2016  9:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the explanation! Good point, without a magnet in hand, there's nothing to see. Who would ever have guessed a modern penny would command interest.....for too many years they were like the plague, filling up pockets. wallets, bowls, just everywhere.

Anyway, back to the topic! An error such as this uncirculated set is difficult to put a price on it but as long as people collect uncirculated sets, there will continue to be a demand for it.
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 Posted 02/14/2016  9:41 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Part of the problem with these packaging errors is there is always a possibility someone has the ability to unseal and reseal the units, also if the RCM issued a kind of recall, there must be a wack full of these. Any news is good news to this hobby it has created a buzz, which we need more of.
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 Posted 02/14/2016  10:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Yes the possibility of fraud is certainly there, although I'd think careful examination would reveal signs of a cut and the resealed overlap. Back to the penny, there's also the risk of one being demagnized with a demagnitizer.
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 Posted 02/14/2016  11:42 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My hope is the TPG has XRF these coins before slabbing or pouching them, that is why with most expensive errors it needs to be slabbed.
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 Posted 02/21/2016  8:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add WizBang to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Hey wildflower.....the penny isn't actually magnetized it is just metal that the penny is made from that is attracted to a magnet, so I don't think you can demagnetize it.
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 Posted 05/27/2016  02:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigchip22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep the set intack I order I got the normal 2016 loonie, but I managed this past mar to luck out at local post office with the 2015 loonie in the set for the normal price I collet for the fun except for these unc sets I don't like majority of the stuff the mint makes today so I to collect mostly reg cdn coins of the past.
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 Posted 06/02/2016  02:35 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Bigchip22 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Keep the set I luck out and pick one up from a local post office back in mar, I rarely come across any errors like this. some one said that they were put together by a out side source. I thought they we done at the mint. Also I try to up load some photos of some coins including I snap on my phone but I had trouble doing it, I will try again.
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 Posted 06/02/2016  07:38 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
My suggestion with this wrong loonie set, sell them for a few hundred bucks if you can there are just far too many of these sets out there.
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 Posted 06/11/2016  5:48 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add dialog_gvf to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Can you certify the packaging?

It would seem to be me WAY too easy to manufacture such a thing. The Chinese are wasting their time trying to create and use fake dies, when all they need to do is package real coins in pliofilm.

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 Posted 06/11/2016  5:51 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CoinCanuck94 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I still can't believe there is a market for these.... what a waste of money.
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 Posted 06/11/2016  6:12 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add john100 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
As errors goes, who cares but still at a certain price this unit still sells even though there is a large amount of them out there.
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 Posted 06/11/2016  8:57 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add wildflowerAB to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I think one would have to be a collector of Uncirculated Sets to understand. The discovery of the 2016 mismatched sets generated a whole lot of enthusiasm and excitement and that's just what the hobby needs from time to time. How many years has it been since newly issued circulated coin has been anything but boring and routine? 2005, 2006 non-mag?

It's memories of the unique, unusual or atypical that make for lifelong collectors. Therefore I think the 2016 mismatched set was a very good thing to have occurred (and I'm not entirely convinced it was entirely accidental on the part of RCM).

As for counterfeits....sure, it's possible as time goes on. But that shouldn't take away the initial thrill of discovery from the lucky ones who originally received it from RCM, CP or a dealer. Collecting is about, well collecting. Buying from unknown sellers on the secondary market always has its risks and possible counterfeits of this set wouldn't be any different than the awareness the goes hand in hand with coin collecting.
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