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Bedrock of the Community
 United States
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I've decided to use an album and 3-pocket pages for my world currency. Album still in transit but pages in hand. I'd like to add some labeling to the pages like the picture below:  The paper is inserted into the pocket along with the note. This was a test done on regular copy paper so I've removed it because I doubt it's acid-free/archival paper. My question is, if I could find archival quality paper, would that be safe for the notes? I'm worried about the ink, particularly. I have a Canon ink jet. On a side note, what other details would you consider worthy of capture? I was thinking condition / grade perhaps but all my world notes are (IMO) CU or AU currently so I'm not sure that matters much. Edited by CelticKnot
01/26/2016 01:12 am
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Rest in Peace
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Good questions! I tried to find an answer. The Smithsonian has some good information but nothing that addresses your situation. This leads me to believe that it isn't safe to store the old paper with the new paper and there are no truly safe inks available. I really like the way you displayed the note with the information beside it but perhaps it would be better to two pages with the notes on one side and the info. on the other. Also, I like to make note of when and where I aquired something and whether or not it has a premium value. But I think all that extra info. would clutter up the card and it looks really nice the way you've done it.  I'm really curious to learn if somebody has found a safe ink to use. |
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Bedrock of the Community
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Thanks for the input, Buddy! Quote:
...perhaps it would be better to two pages with the notes on one side and the info. on the other. Well, I want to maximize my storage. If I do two pages, that cuts in half the number of notes I can fit in one album, and there's already wasted storage in each pocket for all but the largest of notes. I'll go back to the drawing board here rather than take any chances. In my Dansco album for small U.S. notes, I have an index page at the front, but I'd like to use the existing extra space beside each note and not have to constantly flip back to an index. Maybe I could stick the printout in a trading card penny sleeve and weld the top shut with a food saver or something... hmmmm.... |
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Pillar of the Community
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Maybe you could laminate the note or wrap it in saran wrap?
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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I use Avery clear address labels to print out info and stick them onto my 2X2s (they also have white). If you used a label like this, you could stick it onto the outer part of the holder where there would be no contact with the currency. Just an alternative suggestion.
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Pillar of the Community
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There are archiving inks available for SOME printers.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Maybe you could laminate the note or wrap it in saran wrap? Right, that's what I was thinking when I mentioned the trading card penny sleeves... if I could weld the top shut after inserting the printout (with heat gun or food saver or something), that might trap any ink off-gasses. Though I'm not sure if heating/melting the plastic would compromise the neutrality and just cause another problem. Quote:
I use Avery clear address labels to print out info and stick them onto my 2X2s (they also have white). If you used a label like this, you could stick it onto the outer part of the holder where there would be no contact with the currency. I considered something like this, but the album is likely to change over time, and notes will shift around between pockets and pages. The closest idea I got to something like this working was to put an index number on each pocket and then print out an index page for the front or back of the binder with all the data for each pocket. However as I mentioned above, I really would like the printout/info to be side-by-side with the notes. Quote:
There are archiving inks available for SOME printers. Probably not for my cheap Canon Fax/Printer/Scanner.  But they have to be out there... As Buddy alluded to, museums have to be careful of this kind of thing. Thanks for the suggestions, guys! Edited by CelticKnot
01/27/2016 11:34 am
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Pillar of the Community
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I don't think you'll have a lot to worry about from the inks used to print labels for these bills. I know we can get worked up over the small details, but to be honest, I don't see that being your big problem. My vote is to GO FOR IT!
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Pillar of the Community
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I know back in the old days the petroleum-based inks had nasty volatile chemicals that caused lots of environmental issues, but isn't most ink nowadays soy-based?
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Rest in Peace
United States
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I found this site https://www.lib.utexas.edu/apl/aaa/...agecare.htmlThat page does not have the info. you want ....but I have found that a lot of schools and museums are willing to take the time to reply to requests for information. I was thinking that this would make a good topic for an article in any number of magazines and it would be nice to have an expert to quote. Archivists must have their own publications but I think that a short article on inks and storage would be a welcome addition for a coin magazine. Just be sure to send a copy to your expert with a thank you note. It's kind of a shame that the folks that make storage supplies haven't addressed this. |
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Rest in Peace
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 Good link, Hnry. |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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Yes, thanks for that link. Good info. I'm still mulling this all over in my brain. Quote:
I was thinking that this would make a good topic for an article in any number of magazines... Hmmm... perhaps if I find something out regarding inks I'll see about submitting an article. On another note, I did see that there are some pages out there that have a side pocket for something like this: http://www.wizardcoinsupply.com/bcw...pockets.htmlWould something like that be sufficient for isolating any undesirable chemicals / gasses from the notes? The problem with that particular product is it's only for small-sized notes so I'd need a 3-pocket version. Hmmmm.... problems, problems, problems... |
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Bedrock of the Community
United States
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I was doing a bit of research online last night and found that there are indeed archival inks out there for printers, but they're touted as long-lasting and fade-proof, not necessarily that they're non-reactive/neutral/acid-free, etc.
Now, by definition of "archival", they may indeed be all of those things.
I may just give it a whirl with some acid-free paper along with an inexpensive note and see what happens. I have a feeling that the ink will stick to the inside of the pocket. I've seen this happen before where printed material either breaks down or transforms over time and sticks to plastics. Not sure what the science is behind it.
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Rest in Peace
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I suppose it's worth trying. It's kind of frustrating that we can't find out much about it all.
I like the page you found on Wizard with the side pocket but it would be nice if it held large notes.
Anyway, good luck. I really like the way it looks in your pic and I think I will adopt a similar layout for my better coins.
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