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 Posted 10/31/2005  6:17 pm Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add grovey to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
First the 1956 ms65 fbl Franklin

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b...eobverse.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b...nreverse.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b...fbllines.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b...klinslab.jpg

and now the 59d ms64 fbl Franklin

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b...obvserse.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b...nreverse.jpg

http://i21.photobucket.com/albums/b...klinslab.jpg

This is the same Franklin that In asked a while ago if would come back as a 65 making it a $250.00 coin. I didnt have the coin then. any thoughts as to if or if not it would get the "bump" and why.
Thanks


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11/01/2005 09:34 am
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 Posted 11/01/2005  10:22 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add national dealer to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't see the 59-D making the jump to MS-65. There are some distracting marks both behind the head and in front. Both distract and catch the eye.
Now, this would not mean that some enterprising person could not crack this slab, dip the coin properly and sell it at 65 money.
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quote:
Originally posted by national dealer

I don't see the 59-D making the jump to MS-65. There are some distracting marks both behind the head and in front. Both distract and catch the eye.
Now, this would not mean that some enterprising person could not crack this slab, dip the coin properly and sell it at 65 money.



Should you not add in a proper retoning in between the dip and the slab processes
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If done properly, you would not have to tone the 59-D
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I strongly recommend keeping the 64 grade and NOT dipping or altering the coin.
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I had no intention of dipping this coin. I don't know how and even if I did, how dishonest is that ? I like it as is. and the price was fine. I like the 56 even better.

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The 56 is a pretty coin-seems like a true 65 FBL. I'm not wild about the toning pattern currently as it shows up in your pic-but it may look better in hand and as long as your like the pattern, that's all that counts. Where/how did you get it? Do you mind telling us what you paid (as a dabbler in frankies it helps me to know...)
I defer to the experts above on the 59-d. In addition to the marks ND noted-I note a nick on the reverse at a right abgle to the bell "crack". I think that 59-ds are not noted for stong strike (is that correct guys?)-is "pass and stow" visible in hand-doesn't look distinct in your pics. I like this coin more than your 56, actually.
Thanks for posting them!
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I paid $85.00 inc. shipping for the 56, lists in CoinValues at $150.00. I didnt check heritage where it is probably going for less.I just checked heritage, seems I may have overpaid according to the previous sales...I dunno sometimes it's all a crap shoot...


Sale 25104, Lot 11427 Tuesday, October 25, 2005 65 NGC $69.00
Sale 65104, Lot 23290 Sunday, October 23, 2005 65 NGC $74.75
Sale 25104, Lot 11428 Tuesday, October 25, 2005 65 PCGS $66.00
Sale 25103, Lot 13467 Tuesday, October 18, 2005 65 PCGS $62.00
Sale 65101, Lot 24381 Sunday, October 2, 2005 65 PCGS $

Here is the pcgs prce guide from their web site.


PCGS # Description Desig AU 60 62 63 64 65 66 67 68 69
6664 1953 18 28 32 35 45 200 750 - - -
86664 1953 FL - 30 35 50 215 800 3200 - - -
6665 1953-D - 10 12 18 30 225 1200 - - -
86665 1953-D FL - 10 17 32 55 450 1750 - - -
6666 1953-S 16 25 27 30 55 90 400 - - -
86666 1953-S FL - 150 350 1200 4500 17500 50000 - - -
6667 1954 - 10 12 15 27 85 490 2500 - -
86667 1954 FL - 10 13 15 40 185 2600 - - -
6668 1954-D - 10 12 16 30 150 1350 - - -
86668 1954-D FL - 10 13 15 35 210 1500 10000 - -
6669 1954-S - 10 12 13 20 48 400 - - -
86669 1954-S FL - 15 20 27 100 400 3500 20000 - -
6670 1955 8 20 22 30 40 65 450 - - -
86670 1955 FL - 10 13 15 35 200 750 - - -
6671 1956 10 12 13 20 48 95 1000
1956 FL - 10 13 15 40 100 225 4500 - -
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11/01/2005 2:58 pm
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 Posted 11/02/2005  10:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Connecticoin to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The 56 Looks like it is graded properly -- it probably looks better in hand than the scan -- would be interesting to see a good photo of it to compare.

The 59-D looks about right as a 64FBL as well. The noticeable ding on the bell likely keeps it out of a 65 holder.
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