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OK, I'm a little excited, hence all the exclamation marks! I'm asking for help identifying what I have here. It doesn't appear to be the $.25 clash, but look between the 'NE' in ONE. That's the most obvious mark, but I'm also seeing some strange marks in CENT, and in the field between the two words. I don't believe these marks to be PMD. These are the seller photos, I just got the coin today so none of my own yet.   I'm almost seeing the letter 'R' between 'NE' in ONE. What do you see? Any help is greatly appreciated. Edited by ZenFE99
05/01/2016 9:31 pm
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Pillar of the Community
United States
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 puzzles me maybe someone here will have an answer. -MV |
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I'm hoping to put it under a 3D scanning camera at some point.
Any ideas? Clues?
I think I see something under the 'N' in ONE also. I tried looking around for other 1857 coins at the time, and the best I can guess are the $1 and $3 Dollar gold coins, only because they have an 'R' in the reverse in about the same area. Although I would think the 'R' to sit lower if that were the case...
Do we have any FE variety experts on here? Is this worthy of sending to Rick Snow?
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Pillar of the Community
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...[Any ideas? [/quote] Many coins with clashes do not even receive a varietal designation. Just for the record for possible future clashes check CPs' Fivaz Stanton cross reference chart in the back of the book: three clashes are likewise discussed in detail within the main Flying Eagle section with each having a Snow #. I have never been able to get why some clashes are totally neglected but others like the Snow-7 have a variety price of $ 3k for XF-40, for example. |
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I understand clashing of the obverse/reverse of the same coin can be pretty common, but multi denominational clashes! I love them. I have snow-9s, and 8s, and always on the look out for a snow-7.
These clashes don't appear to be from the obverse of the FE - looks to be something totally different. If so, well that would be like the 7th time in our history such a clash has happened correct? (I recall there being 6, 3 on the 1857 FEs).
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Bedrock of the Community
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I don't know, looks like the clash(?) at the top of the NE might be from the eagle. The area where the leg joins the body.
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United States
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Conder - are you saying the clash could be of the Obverse? I'm not sure I agree, simply because I don't think the leg would fall in that area on the reverse (if the working dies struck each other with no coin between).
I honestly keep seeing an 'R' between the 'NE' of ONE.
I don't think it was double struck as what I'm calling the 'R' doesn't match any of the other letters/characters on the reverse.
The top of the wreath has some interesting marks as well -they almost seem to match the radial lines of the plant at the top. I know the reverse of the gold $3 has the same wreath, but the coin is slightly larger. If I'm not mistaken the hammer/anvil positions of the flying eagle were reverse in comparison to other coins run on the same die/press - which is why the clashes we do know about are Obv to Obv, or Rev to Rev.
I doubt it, but if I had to guess I would say maybe clashed with a gold $3 of the same year?
Edited by ZenFE99
05/03/2016 1:04 pm
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Pillar of the Community
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There's only one way to know for sure, because Condor was just providing his opinion. So there's no need for the knee jerk disagreement with each poster. You need to send it to Rick. Go on his website and contact him through there. He's the only one that could provide the professional insight you're searching for. Please do keep us in the loop, we're excited to see what you may have found.
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Kookoox, perhaps you misread my post? I certainly meant no disrespect to anyone's opinions/theory,,, if it came across that way I wholeheartedly apologize. I welcome all the help I can get.
I was only asking Conder if he meant the obverse Eagle, or the $.25 reverse Eagle clash marks of a snow8 variety. Yes, assuming he meant the obverse Eagle then I do disagree with him. Not trying to be rude towards him, just a healthy debate amongst coin lovers. I'm open to, and am often, very wrong and happily own up to it. I just don't think the eagle's leg would be in that area.
I've turned to forum for help, and if it hits a wall here I'll reach out to Rick.
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Pillar of the Community
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Yeah, time to try Rick. Ya never know.
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Bedrock of the Community
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Yes I was thinking a clash with the FE obv. That was from mentally picturing a overlay of the obv o the rev. But from measuring distances on your images I can see now that it wouldn't be quite in the right spot unless the obv die was misaligned when they clashed.
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It looks like it might be a clash but not 100% because of heavy wear
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Bedrock of the Community
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Here is an overlay.  Edited by coop
05/12/2016 4:17 pm
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It looks like a normal clash from the feathers to me.
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