I don't get that one either, both of these coins imply a collar die smaller in diameter than the dies, the strike would be IMO impossible. So both I'm saying are
PMD IMO.
Further to my point, Both lack or are very close to lacking denticles.
If the collar is too small for the dies, the dies can't strike the coin and would clash into the collar die, which would likely break the collar, leaving evidence on the edges.
Edited by Alan
10/09/2016 3:26 pm