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Is This St. Gaudens Any Good?

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I agree with the loud crowd advising not to buy unless it's in a PCGS or NGC capsule.
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I take a few of those 1908 PCGS ms63 saints for $800 or even $950. Send me the info of that dealer!
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Gold-20-...AOSwCfdXpTKS
Here's one for way under $2400. Yes, he sold it for under melt.
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That is a No Motto. I was referring to the With Motto variety, which is scarcer. I still think you are making conlusions from misinformation or a misremembered fact.

Here's one that sold for over $2000 in certified MS-63 condition:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/1908-20-Gol...AOSwux5YPvQb
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I placed a bid on one of the Heritage coins. Kind of unfortunate they charge sales tax for out of state buyers.
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I placed a bid on one of the Heritage coins. Kind of unfortunate they charge sales tax for out of state buyers


If you're in a state that charges sales taxes on coins forget everything I said. You're going to overpay. If you live close to a border state without taxes, hop the fence and buy from a local coin shop.

What state are you in and what is the sales tax rate?
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California, I think it's around 8.5%. Closest state to me is Nevada which is about the same :-( Are there any ways to circumvent this?
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Was the 8.5% tax rate disclosed by Heritage or is that a generic tax figure that you assumed to be correct based on other purchases?

Sales taxes rates are determined at the state level and are category-specific. For example: some states tax food while others don't. Some states tax health club memberships(my profession)others don't. I'm going to go out on a limb here and say that Nevada doesn't tax coin purchases. NV has consistently ranked as one of the lowest tax states for many years.

If you live close to the Nevada border, just renege on your offer and tell Heritage that you accidently hit the bid button. Find a dealer in NV and establish a relationship.

Side note: I'm not surprised CA charges a sales tax on coins. CA is worse that Taxachusetts.
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Regarding sales tax in CA: coins and bullion are exempt if total cost for a purchase is $1500 or more. Heritage WILL add sales tax to any purchase from CA that doesn't meet the $1500 minimum. In fact, they once tried to charge me tax when I won a lot with price over the minimum; I had to argue with them to get the proper tax-free final price.
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How much actual gold is in a Saint-Gaudens $20 gold piece?
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Contains .9675 oz of Gold.
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I think I'm going to have it shipped to my aunt's house in Oregon if I win and have her forward it down to me.
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Businesses avoid tax in the same way.
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Did you win it?
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No :( Bids shot up majorly during live bidding. My max was at $1,250 which with a BP would've been pretty close to $1,400. Ended up selling for $1,527.50 including BP.

I'm talking to Mark Feldman from the link BH1964 posted, he has some good ones that are more in my price range.. even slightly less than I was willing to pay for the Heritage coin. My plan is to get a raw coin so I can fiddle with it and when I get tired of that I'll get it graded and boxed up for sale.
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