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1976 LMC Clipped Planchet ?

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1976-LMC--Clipped-Planchet-?

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Yep - even shows the Blakesley effect - a find or did you buy it
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I found it in a jar of pennies
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Nice find!
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That coin has been out in the wild for a long time! Glad it found a good home. Enjoy.
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Looks ground to me too flat for a clip that far in would have more parabolic effect.

Mark1959: what is Blakely effect
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Google clipped planchet blakesly effect should be plenty on there look at some examples....seems the smaller clips show it more usually. This one I just don't know I'd have to get a better look at it on my iPad when I get home.
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Slamnbass, did so
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The Blakesley effect is named for the American numismatist who first described it.
The Blakesley effect occurs on most genuine clipped planchet error coins and is characterised by weakness in the rim opposite the clipped end of the coin.



1976-LMC--Clipped-Planchet-?

I'm sorry, but according to this, it ain't. NO WEAKNESS shows 180 out, none on either side. Also look at rim edge on subject coin, 45 degree angle on 4 corners...as a woodworker, say this was done on belt sander!

Clips are sharp!
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Also look at rim edge on subject coin, 45 degree angle on 4 corners...as a woodworker, say this was done on belt sander!

Clips are sharp!


Note rim edges - Plus Blakesley effect does not occur on all clips, some light, and some none at all llike OP's coin - light effect on Obverse none on reverse.

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Again Mark, try this...I put a straight edge piece of paper over the reverse of this Memorial cent from corner to corner of this "clip"...it's not even straight, it's wavy. Straight may be an edge cut coming from planchet sheet, wavy seems to indicate tampering. Next point, yes I too have clips which have degreed edges at corners as you show, but only on one side, caused by downward motion causing tilting at clipped point. This coin is on both sides. Still not sure of this, why so straight? Every clip I have is curved. I might accept that this is an edge stamped planchet from the original sheet of copper, don't know what the edges look like on one. Not trying to be difficult, just not convinced it isn't a fake, I wouldn't have bought it, even $.50!
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Clip shape isn't always perfectly straight or follow the curve of the circumference (or whatever the original shape of the clip on the planchet was) - the clip shape can get distorted during the strike.

Straight clips often have less Blakesley effect than curved clips for some reason. The Blakesley effect is present here, on the obverse.

Judging from the metal flow of the rim and devices around the clip, this is genuine.
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Great find. I have not found one yet but hope to.
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I'm not sure about authencity.
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100% - it's a genuine clip. Can't say more than has already been said.
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Well, I give up, have to take the consensus's view. But...I guess because this is first straight clip I've ever seen, of many BTW, always learning something new.

Still got my contest going, been a-round a few days, still am trying to see why a round die can make a linear cut!
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Blanks are punched out off the edge of the blank sheet. Here's a visual of how straight clips happen:


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