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Anyone Know How To Date Japanese Coins?

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 Posted 12/04/2005  01:41 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add ndgoflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
Hi all, I've got a bunch of different denominations of Japanese yen, but I can't figure out how to date them. Can anyone shove me in the right way? Thanks in advance.
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 Posted 12/05/2005  1:10 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The Krause book has a section that shows the placement of the number symbols and how to interpret them. So far, I've been unsuccessful dating any. It was hard enough for me to read the symbols for denomination.
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 Posted 12/05/2005  1:16 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ndgoflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That's exactly my problem!! Some nationalities are pretty easy to translate, but Japan and Thailand have been a bear for me.
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 Posted 12/06/2005  09:08 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarlTromp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The japanese dates are most of the time at the bottom of the coin, never longer than 2 numbers, going from 1 untill to 64 (max), the first number is the 10th,so 10, 20, 30, 40 50 0r 60, the second the 1 types, so 1, 2, etc.
By looking at the type, and then the 2 numberial date you can check it in the krause, easy to do (just finished a half hour ago relisting my japanes doubles ;-) )
The Thailand coins have mostly the dates on the nomination side's, best you could do is make a list with the thai dates, and check the coins that way (si I do it when I have to sort them out and date them)if you cant figure it out, send me a scan of the coin, and I will draw in where the date is, and give you the cristian date for it o.k.?

Greetings, Carl
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 Posted 12/06/2005  12:36 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add crystalk64 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I don't know why Japan won't come out of the dark ages and place current dates on their coinage. This is the single GREATEST reason I will not collect Japanese coinage. My son brought me home a set a few years ago and I don't have a clue what years they were struck but do know a man/woman shouldn't have to be a specialist to read dates on coins so until Japan adds current numerical dates the rest of the world can read they can keep their coinage. I don't care how eye appealing or beautiful it may be it is not worth a plug nickel is it doesn't have the date I can read. They can continue their dates as long as they place OUR dates along side! Only then will I be a happy camper!
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 Posted 12/08/2005  1:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add kuhli to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's a page I made a long time ago, to help with dating Japanese coins. Hope it helps.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kuhli/japanese.htm
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 Posted 12/08/2005  3:13 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add thekidcollector to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Oriental Coins really bug me!!!

I look at them and say, "Where the heck are these from?"

Look at date, "AHHHH!!!"
Look for country name, "AHHHHH!"
Look for Picture, "ONLY SCRIPTS!!! AHHHH!!!"
Look up Krause, "SO MANY ORIENTALS, over 800, AHHHHH!!"

I won't bother!
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 Posted 12/08/2005  6:39 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by kuhli

Here's a page I made a long time ago, to help with dating Japanese coins. Hope it helps.

http://mywebpages.comcast.net/kuhli/japanese.htm


Love the page! Thanks so much for posting it!
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 Posted 12/09/2005  1:24 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add ndgoflo to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the link kuhli, that's a pretty well written page. I will try to find time this weekend to use it to see if I can finally get these Yen dated!![:p]
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 Posted 12/09/2005  1:30 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CarlTromp to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Well, it seems that I am a differend cind of collector then, exactly the difference in coins, numerals, desighns and so on make it interresting!!

But, well, some people don't look over the borders of their own country, and think the world stops right there, so they will never get that feeling that it gives to learn more abouth other country's, their coins, their numberial ways, and all those things.

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 Posted 12/23/2005  1:25 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add gxseries to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
quote:
Originally posted by crystalk64

I don't know why Japan won't come out of the dark ages and place current dates on their coinage. This is the single GREATEST reason I will not collect Japanese coinage. My son brought me home a set a few years ago and I don't have a clue what years they were struck but do know a man/woman shouldn't have to be a specialist to read dates on coins so until Japan adds current numerical dates the rest of the world can read they can keep their coinage. I don't care how eye appealing or beautiful it may be it is not worth a plug nickel is it doesn't have the date I can read. They can continue their dates as long as they place OUR dates along side! Only then will I be a happy camper!



Beg your pardon there Terry. Japan has stuck to this tradition more than 2000 years. To demolish this tradition is like to demolish a culture and this will not happen. In the past when Japan surrendered, US did want the whole Emperor system to be abolished but this was fiercely opposed, even though the Emperor was the one who was in charge of the whole war thing. To a typical Japanese, an Emperor is like a god and he will stay in existance no matter what the situation would be like. I mean, in the past, you have soldiers scarificing their own lives for the Emperor - if you had the Emperor removed at that time, you might as well see a grand scale massacre. Yet this tradition still strongly goes on - I don't see much problem with it.

Why take things in a negative way when you can get to learn the history of Japan together with the year dating?
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 Posted 12/25/2005  10:51 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Susanlynn9 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
While I struggle terribly with dating and identifying Japanese coinage, I have to say that I agree with Gx. I think it makes the Japanese coins more interesting in that more research is required and they are so different from other coins.
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 Posted 12/28/2005  8:59 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add baddspellar to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's another handy reference: http://www.imes.boj.or.jp/cm/pdffil...rialyear.pdf
I keep a printout of this.
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 Posted 01/01/2006  4:09 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add fish01 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Kuhli, Thanks for the page, that really helps me out!! Hasta
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