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1889 Morgan, I'm Sending It In To PCGS

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Come one, Come all, take your guesses at what this one will grade at. I'm sending it out to PCGS along with some others



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AU Dets. I absolutely despise that toning. Let them conserve it first.
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It is going in for conservation (along with everything else I'm sending in), but the toning would not make it a details graded coin (since it is natural toning lol)
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I think it could reach MS64 if it is indeed mint state. Best of luck and looking forward to your results.
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I have no expertise with grading the series ... so the grade opinion AU55/AU58 is to be accepted with the noted caveat.

Your photographs show lots of flat spots that could be rub ... or could be strike related.

Someone with experience with this series (not me) would know the difference ... hence my opinion.

I do concur that the surface colors ... toning as it is ... is not pleasant to my eye ... but works for you.

Let us know what the PCGS wizards suggest ...

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Gotta get rid of all those fingerprints. Nice looking coin otherwise.
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AU-55.
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i doubt those prints are going to come off. AU details
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Again, the fingerprints/toning are not something that would make it a details graded coin
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Agree shot 64, not the prettiest gal on the block.
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Not saying the prints make it a details coin. Just makes it ugly, maybe a good dip.
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That would be interesting if there were a "details - ugly" designation at the TPGs. Probably wouldn't be good business practice to disrespect your customers' submissions that way.
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Interestingly enough, PCGS will give coins grades of 65+ that have fingerprints on them.
Take for instance the highest graded 1890CC Tailbar Morgan, its a 65+ and has some big fingerprinting on the reverse.
http://www.PCGScoinfacts.com/Coin/Detail/87198
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Fingerprints don't affect the technical grade. It does figure prominently in evaluation of eye appeal which affects the final grade determination. Eye appeal is highly subjective, but critical in determining value, more than grade.
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AU55. Why are you having it graded?
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