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Definitive Test For Black Beauty Nickels

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 Posted 11/26/2022  11:02 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add sel_69l to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The TPGraders have a way of identifying 'improper mix black beauties'.- How do they do it?

As collectors, we also have to know how to pick fake from genuine with low value examples, that are not worth slabbing..
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 Posted 01/13/2023  1:33 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add RW1010 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
What are your thoughts on these? Worth grading? Thanks for any info
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 Posted 01/13/2023  1:56 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add MrJ to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Here's my 59 that I believe to be a BB pulled from a circulation roll compared to a 64 nickel.

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 Posted 10/19/2023  8:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add CreativeName to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Does anyone have an opinion about the ANACS slabbed black beauties from 1958 and 1959? They seem to be the most common on ebay and I'm considering buying a couple.

But I don't know much about them (hence my finding this thread on a google search), and don't want to spend the money on something that is possibly faddish that people may not want down the road, or that may have a rapidly increasing population that could drive prices down.

I don't collect for the money aspect of the hobby alone, but want to be careful that I feel like I understand what I'm getting into.
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True "black beauties" are due to an improper treatment of the planchets in the annealing oven.
The problem is that struck nickels can turn black from a number of other causes - applied heat, chemicals, being in the ground, improper storage, etc.

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 Posted 10/20/2023  09:31 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
That sums it up well.
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I've seen claims that a particular example of every denomination of US coins is a "black beauty". Sellers attach that designation to even Lincoln cents and Morgan dollars.
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I'm only interested in the ANACS black beauty nickels. Not sure if ngc or PCGS even mark their slabs with the designation, but if they do, I'd be interested in those too. I'm not interested in learning enough to identify black beauties myself which is why I want ANACS (or PCGS or NGC) to mark them so I'm confident they are genuine.

I just don't know if the prices will keep up like they are now or if the interest could possibly fade (or the population increase) to maybe cause the prices to drop.
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I was adding a few more coins to this page and I noticed have 3, 1959-p Jefferson nickel that are also 1959-p Jefferson nickel WDDO-002 all of which a black beauty Jefferson nickels. Of this do I don't think I seen a non black beauty example?

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In case you want to check yours.

https://www2.briansvarietycoins.com...ngs/view/626
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Nice Black Beauty Nickel, Marc Ingram!
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Thank you gents.
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I know this thread is old, but It's all I could find that really explains the Black Beauty. Thanks SPRU. I bought a huge lot of proof nickels, the l run is from 1956 thru 2011. As I was looking through them, I found 2 1964's not sure if the seller knew there were 2 in the lot. One is definitely a proof. The other looks like a Black Beauty IMO. It has full steps and is uncirculated. The pics show 3 different coins, all 1964. The top one is a regular 1964. The left is the is the black beauty I'm referring to. The bottom is a proof. Can anyone shed some light on this? Thanks in advance.

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"Black Beauty" nickels were most often 1958 and 1959 business strikes - never heard of a "Proof" Black Beauty nickel.
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