Coin Community Family of Web Sites Join Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors
Vancouvers #1 Coin and Paper Money Dealer Specializing in Modern Numismatics Royal Canadian Mint products, Canadian, Polish, American, and world coins and banknotes. Royal Estate Auctions - $1 Coin AuctionsJoin Thousands of Coin, Bullion, & Money Collectors 300,000 items to help build your collection! Coin, Banknote and Medal Collectors's Online Mall








Username:
Password:
Save Password
Forgot your Password?


This page may contain links that result in small commissions to keep this free site up and running.

Welcome Guest! Registering and/or logging in will remove the anchor (bottom) ads. It's Free!

Help With Grading Two MS-63 Indian $5

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.
Author Previous TopicReplies: 8 / Views: 1,145Next Topic  
Valued Member
Tradernik's Avatar
Canada
51 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  02:52 am Show Profile   Bookmark this topic Add Tradernik to your friends list Get a Link to this Message Number of Subscribers
After a friendly welcome here, I've been encouraged to post my questions. As a noob, understanding grading is the biggest challenge, especially looking at pics on the screen. Any input on these two coins is appreciated. I try to do some price discovery when looking at an auction coin. The first coin is up at GA now. The second was sold at auction this year. Both are MS63. To my eyes, the current GA one is not as nice as the Stack's and Bowers one. Is this just lighting? The S & B is so pretty, color wise. The devices also look more worn to me. If my hunch is right, is the second one simply 'better for the grade'? Any input is appreciated.

http://www.greatcollections.com/Coi...GS-MS-63-OGH

https://auctions.stacksbowers.com/l...view/3-7HCZY


Help-With-Grading-Two-MS-63-Indian-$5
Help-With-Grading-Two-MS-63-Indian-$5

*** Moved by Staff to a more appropriate forum. ***
Pillar of the Community
scstrawn's Avatar
United States
536 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  07:55 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add scstrawn to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I prefer the second personally.
Bedrock of the Community
BH1964's Avatar
United States
10982 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  08:33 am  Show Profile   Check BH1964's eBay Listings Bookmark this reply Add BH1964 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The second one looks better in the images. The first piece may have come off worn dies. But you are correct that lighting makes a huge difference and in-hand the tables could turn.
ANA #R3154474
Pillar of the Community
billjones's Avatar
United States
1499 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  09:14 am  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Going by the photos, which is not always perfect, I'd go with the second one. The first one was a big dead spot on the Indian's cheek which says "AU" to me. I also think that the top of the eagle's wing on the reverse shows wear.

So far as the eight piece gold type set goes, the $5 Indian is by far the hardest piece to find in true Unc. I looked at a lot of coins when I was first working on my gold type set in the 1960s. Finding a true Unc. $5 Indian was really hard, even then.
Valued Member
Tradernik's Avatar
Canada
51 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  3:08 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tradernik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Thanks for the replies. The grading thing is by turns difficult and exciting because although I can have a hard time knowing if a coin is a good buy at a particular grade (especially when I see comparables like this), I'm sure that with enough experience I could start to identify situations in which you see a coin that I know is undergraded. That would be a nice feeling.


Quote:
Going by the photos, which is not always perfect, I'd go with the second one. The first one was a big dead spot on the Indian's cheek which says "AU" to me. I also think that the top of the eagle's wing on the reverse shows wear.


Good to see you here billjones. I'm new over at another forum where you're active and I enjoy your posts over there.
Pillar of the Community
Alpha2814's Avatar
United States
2023 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  3:32 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Alpha2814 to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
Without commenting on the actual grade, I have noticed that GC's lighting on gold pieces don't give a good picture, so to speak. I've been shopping GC for a $3 Princess over the last few weeks. All of them look pretty terrible on their site. But one, following through PCGS certification and history, had an earlier picture on Heritage that made it look much better.
Valued Member
Tradernik's Avatar
Canada
51 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  3:35 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Tradernik to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply

Quote:
Without commenting on the actual grade, I have noticed that GC's lighting on gold pieces don't give a good picture, so to speak

Yes, I'm noticing the same thing. The Heritage site is that much better for pics and also just in terms of overall design, I think. I guess that's what you get for your 18% juice.

Pillar of the Community
billjones's Avatar
United States
1499 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  4:17 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add billjones to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
The trouble with some Heritage photos is that they tend to overexpose them which can cover up some of the marks. I learned that the hard way years ago. I've learned to adjust the way I look at their photos and can do pretty well with them now.
Bedrock of the Community
Coinfrog's Avatar
United States
94367 Posts
 Posted 07/27/2017  4:37 pm  Show Profile   Bookmark this reply Add Coinfrog to your friends list Get a Link to this Reply
I agree, have had similar issues.
  Previous TopicReplies: 8 / Views: 1,145Next Topic  

To participate in the forum you must log in or register.



    




Disclaimer: While a tremendous amount of effort goes into ensuring the accuracy of the information contained in this site, Coin Community assumes no liability for errors. Copyright 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Family- all rights reserved worldwide. Use of any images or content on this website without prior written permission of Coin Community or the original lender is strictly prohibited.
Contact Us  |  Advertise Here  |  Privacy Policy / Terms of Use

Coin Community Forum © 2005 - 2026 Coin Community Forums
It took 0.31 seconds to rattle this change. Forums