1882 DDO Large Cent Latest Ebay Buy

@gidjit & C-V

Why are you trying to sell these on ebay? It seems that an auction house would be more appropriate.

Since you are putting your coins in PCGS holder, why not take advantage of the PCGS Collector's Showcase sets? You can upload several photos per coin as well.



As you can see, there are categories for varieties, errors, and even just your favourite coins...

I have one for Canadian Nickel Dollar Varieties:

https://www.PCGS.com/SetRegistry/co...rieties/1648

okiecoiner...I was going to let you have your last word but I do have to address some of your defamatory statements...

1. Maybe Zonad's coin wasn't ruined by Acetone, acetone just "uncovered" the old cleaning as you hypothesize..that's a very possible explanation, we will never know as only Randy knows what the coin looked like before. It did look uncleaned in the ICCS flip when I saw it just before he bought it...but the pictures were bad and after all, it IS ICCS (the sanctuary of cleaned coins)...you may be right, it is unfortunate though how the coin looks now..

2. I have a lot of "cleaned" coins in my inventory because I buy a lot of raw "cleaned" coins on ebay, yes, even those hiding in ICCS flips where major Canadian dealers like to send their problem coins to be "hidden"...of course I have never seen you decry the practice of Canadian dealers toning cleaned coins and sending them to ICCS which then turns a blind eye and pretends those problem coins dont "have a problem" (it's not like I'm accusing you of HYPOCRISY)...so yes, I have a ton of Victoria coins that were cleaned by someone else in the past - sometimes I leave them alone, sometimes I play with them to tone or retone them, however I have never turned an original Vicky into a "cleaned" or "hairlined" coin. I am not bothered by cleaned coins - you are, that's your choice but to suggest that I damage my coins is defamatory.

3. the "purple" coins you refer to, I think, are coins that have a certain shine to them due to Renaissance Wax. Renaissance Wax is used by the British Museum to protect their copper and bronze artifacts that are hundreds or thousands of years OLDER than Vicky cents. None of the TPG grading companies have any issue with it...you can hate it, it's a free country.
If you accidentally buy one of my slabbed coins, by all means, crack the slab and drown it in acetone and the Renaissance Wax comes right off! - no more shine! I like Renaissance Wax to provide a barrier against moisure, heat, oxygen, etc, and it gives a nice pleasant shine. You hate it - that's cool too. Claiming that it makes coins look purple - is just plain stupid. Again, if you have issues with my photography, you are free to hate my ebay photos, it's a free country.

"Who Uses RENAISSANCE Wax-Polish:
UK: British Museum, Victoria & Albert Museum. Royal Armories (Tower of London , London & Leeds, National Army Museum, Imperial War Museum, the Wallace Collection, H.M. the Queen's Royal Armorer (at Marlborough House), the Guards Museum (Wellington Barracks), the Gurkha Museum (Winchester), the Military Museums at Aldershot, Royal Green Jackets Regimental Museum, the Gunsmith at Chatham Historic Dockyard (Kent), the Johnny Armstrong Gallery, and Museum of Border Arms & Armor (Scotland), National Museum of Antiquities of Scotland. Belgium: Musee Royal de l'Armee et d'Histoire Militaire-Brussels.
USA: Gunsmith at Colonial Williamsburg, the Smithsonian, Metropolitan Museum of Art, Academy of Art-Honolulu, Texarcana College-Bladesmithing & Metallurgy, Rockfeller Restorations, and many many more institutions around the world."

PCGS is a "kitchen-table slabber."

You really can't make this stuff up...

As far as I can tell, there wasn't a defamatory statement anywhere in my post, C-V. You must interpret words differently than I do. I DO have a problem, however, with one of your quotes ..

"of course I have never seen you decry the practice of Canadian dealers toning cleaned coins and sending them to ICCS which then turns a blind eye and pretends those problem coins dont "have a problem" (it's not like I'm accusing you of HYPOCRISY)"

You evidently haven't read the scores of posts that I've put up about ICCS, CCCS, NGC and others about certing cleaned or restored coins with nothing mentioned in the remarks. I also send at least 50 emails every year to ebay vendors for putting up misdescribed coins up for auction and I'll always mention cleaning on coins put up on these coin sites for evaluation. I have never even submitted a coin to a TPG for certing and I don't have any "Canadian Dealer" buddies, so where is your comment coming from? I don't turn a blind eye on anything, coinwise .. I've been kicked off more coin sites than you have, C-V, mostly for calling dealers, vendors, authors, and TPG's as cheats and liars and for them trying to take advantage of newbies. Ahhh, it's nice to be back here again and listen to complaints from you. I'll go back to protecting the newbies.

I was referring to CCCS, your weapon of choice for foisting minor die differences as "major errors" onto an unsuspecting public. Since the majority of your offerings are in their slabs, the inference is so are the majority of the waxed coins you offer in slabs.

And, quite frankly, it isn't that hard to push a cleaned coin through PCGS either. You just have to be good at it.




Frankly, that practice works in my favor, and in the favor of every specialist who is willing to move past the chaff and see the wheat.

Good to see you back okiecoiner and back on the debating team

Just want to say




To Everyone

I agree scopru!

And Merry Christmas to you too, Don!

God bless all the fine folks that make CCF work so well.