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Since some of you are new to Aussie coins (and do not yet have a Maccas)
Here is an explaination of the Mint Marks

C= Mint your own at the visitors center at the RAM or Canberra
or Mint your own at the Royal Canberra Show
or sold through mailing list and to dealers
S= Mint your own at the Sydney Royal Easter Show or Sydney Mint
or Sydney ANDA Show (Australasian Numismatic Dealers Association)
M= Mint your own at the Melbourne Aricultural Show
A= Mint your own at the Adelaide Show
B= Mint your own at the Brisbane Aricultural Show
or Brisbane ANDA Show (Australasian Numismatic Dealers Association)



Ok Here are the others

G= Gallipoli used for this commemorative dollar

E = Eureka The Eureka uncirculated $1 coin were not released for general circulation and were issued in Mint cardboard folders. It is the first year for the E mintmark of the $1 series

H= Hobart Tasmanians and visitors were able to strike the 'H' mintmark on a coin during a three-day visit to Hobart by the Royal Australian Mint.

Even though this is a Decimal thread
Here are the Predecimal mint marks not counting placements of dots etc.
L=Royal Mint, London
H=Heaton & Son, Birmingham
C=Calcutta branch of The Royal Mint
M=Melbourne branch of The Royal Mint
S=Sydney branch of The Royal Mint
P=Perth branch of The Royal Mint
B=Bombay branch of The Royal Mint
F=U.S. Mint, San Francisco
D=U.S. Mint, Denver

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rggoodie, Are these coins actually done on a portable press at the shows or are only the mint marks added at the shows? Just curious as Australia seems to have a ton of mint marks and I recently purchased all the dollar coins and various mint marks from 2002 through 2005?
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quote:
Originally posted by crystalk64

rggoodie, Are these coins actually done on a portable press at the shows or are only the mint marks added at the shows? Just curious as Australia seems to have a ton of mint marks and I recently purchased all the dollar coins and various mint marks from 2002 through 2005?



It is strucked by a portable press on site that only adds the mint mark to the coins already minted by the RAM without the mint marks. HAs been a standing joke on the Aussie Forum about bribing the Press Operator for one of the coins without any mint marks...boy that will be a real collectors item.

Hey RG what abot "G"and "H" ...
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quote:
Originally posted by lim118

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Hey RG what abot "G"and "H" ...



Edited as requested

I am beginning to think that if we took the post from both forums,
we could publish our own book
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Were all the "G" mint marks done on site at the War Memorial as I read somewhere there was a difference in the "G". Any thoughts on this?
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quote:
Originally posted by crystalk64

Were all the "G" mint marks done on site at the War Memorial as I read somewhere there was a difference in the "G". Any thoughts on this?


To commemorate the 90th anniversary of the
Gallipoli landing, the Royal Australian Mint has released
a 2005 $1 Coin - Gallipoli 1915 with a 'G' mintmark.
Designed by Vladimir Gottwald, this coin features a
silhouette of a bugler playing the Last Post, a sombre
tribute to the many lives lost in defence of our freedom.
For the first time at a special launch at the Australian
War Memorial, a 'G' for Gallipoli was minted.


In many ways, the conflict at Gallipoli defined the ANZAC
spirit. Against overwhelming odds, soldiers from Australia
and New Zealand fought side by side, forming a legend that
carries on today. Our concepts of mateship, pride and courage
were forged in the heat of battle on those fateful days.

These have been completely sold out at the mint within the
space of a day and basically all dealers have sold out also.
With a limited mintage of only 40,000 these are extremely
sought after, as there is normally an unlimited mintage on
mintmark coins for the year. This is truly a magnificent
coin that is a must for any collector or for the patriotic
Australian
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It is my understanding there is a difference in the G mint mark that was produced at the mint and the G that was struck by hand at the War Memorial. If I remember correctly the G added at the War Memorial is, for lack of another work, a little sloppy and crude compared to the perfection done at the Mint and these coins are really bringing a premium. But, the mint marked coins struck at the Memorial were also placed in the official mint cards so there is basically NO way to tell where they were actually minted except for the fact one of the mint marks is crude? Do you understand my question now? The reason I am asking is that I have both and I can see a noticeable difference in the G?

Also in what years did the U.S. Mint produce coins for Australia and in what denominations? Wouldn't mind getting my paws on a few uncs there as well?
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Mint-Marks

The above scans shows both the two "G"s under magnification. The top one is issued directly from the Mint, a very clear strike. The bottom one is from the mobile presses at the Australian War Memorial that just added on the "G" to pre minted coins.

There are a few theories on the differences, one is that the mobile press do not exert the same amount of striking pressure as the fixed presses and the other is a different font was used. IMHO, I think it is both.

The "G" issued at the AWM was available only to buyers who queued up to purchase them at the AWM. No one could purchase them through mail orders.As a consequence, very lmited numbers were minted and these are the ones chased by collectors. Not everyone who lined up to purchase them are collectors (visitors to the AWM for the memorial service),the coins purchase by them would soon disappear into circulation. It has been remarked on the Aussie Forum that a member there actually saw some of the people there taking the coins out of their folders to look at the coins and then just pocketting the coins.

At an issue price of under three bucks, these MYO's are now already commanding a premium on ebay. IMHO, given time and it won't be long, this coin will pose a serious threat to the VC dollar.

Cheers....Lim
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Thanks lim AGAIN as I actually remembered something correctly. As I said, I now have both coins and feel VERY fortunate to be this lucky! I know a great number of collectors in Australia are still searching for both, as well as, many dealers so these are a real treat! I intend to try and fill a set dollars but would prefer the Roos in proof if, over a period of time, I can find them. Should be a lot of fun. I will get with Bigfella as soon as he returns from Never Never Land!
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I knew I had a couple somewhere...found it...this coin may most likely be the only decimal Aussie coin with the "H" Mint Mark. IMHO, I do not think we will see decimal coins with this MM again for a long time.

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quote:
There are a few theories on the differences, one is that the mobile press do not exert the same amount of striking pressure as the fixed presses and the other is a different font was used. IMHO, I think it is both.



Neither is correct.

The difference are purely manufacturing, the mint coins are struck with dies that have the mintmark in them, resulting in good clean strike.

The "MYO's" are pre-struck with-out mintmark, thus the metal has already work hardened, not nice and recently annealed for striking.
Combine this with manual placement of coins in press with only one mark being struck and you end up with a much inferior product.

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It has been remarked on the Aussie Forum that a member there actually saw some of the people there taking the coins out of their folders to look at the coins and then just pocketting the coins.


This didn't happen at the AWM, it happened at the mint along with the old lady complaining about paying $2.50 for a $1 coin and getting her money back.
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Time to resurrect this thread as our Mints have gone completely bonkers with Mint Marks...latest addition to this list by Richard..

A....Special edition of ANDA TV Silver Proof Coin.

GZ..Duyfken $5.00 alu-Br coin.

...but wait, that is not all...the yet to be release coin with the TV Mint Mark.
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It's getting as bad as the Perth Mint privy marks on the kookas.
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Maybe one day we will have a MYO where you can choose anything as a mint mark.

Imagine a coin with mm "bm1947"....lol

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Anyway, as far as collectors go what's the big deal with the portable press if the mintmark is much the same as the Canberra mint? I'd rather see a couple of thousand unique coins coming off the press rather than just the usual C, B, M, S or whatever. Like those coin fair silver kangaroos that have a unique interrupted edge reeding. The dollar is already interrupted so maybe they could make continous ones. Something like that.
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I see the silver proof TV coin at the ANDA show has an "A" mintmark and is limited to 6000 coins. This makes more sense to me.
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